Payrolls 2014-2015

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:23 pm

Updated.

ANA: $62883333 with 23 players
BOS: $61627479 with 23 players
BUF: $57657500 with 22 players
CAR: $60712500 with 23 players
CBJ: $63584166 with 22 players
CGY: $60970267 with 25 players
CHI: $63154125 with 22 players
COL: $58662500 with 22 players
DAL: $59373334 with 23 players
DET: $56522500 with 22 players
EDM: $60594166 with 22 players
FLA: $58475000 with 22 players
LA: $62637500 with 22 players
MIN: $63142184 with 22 players
MTL: $62012710 with 23 players
NAS: $61820833 with 21 players
NJ: $61920834 with 23 players
NYI: $63144271 with 21 players
NYR: $63134463 with 24 players
OTT: $56625000 with 22 players
PHI: $57721250 with 22 players
PHX: $63086250 with 22 players
PIT: $63018750 with 22 players
SJ: $63982733 with 22 players
STL: $62536545 with 22 players
TB: $62917921 with 23 players
TOR: $63649835 with 22 players
VAN: $56576248 with 24 players
WPG: $63787500 with 22 players
WSH: $61445248 with 23 players

Feel free to PM me with any questions you might have.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:36 pm

Good job, guys. I must admit that I'm impressed.

NAS and NYI: You need another player on your pro roster. Everyone needs 22 or 23 players.

BlackHawk Down (Seb) · Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:47 pm

Who do you think we are ? Some Rejean Houle or something ?

Buffalo LEPS · Post by **Buffalo LEPS** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:00 pm

Peanut !

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:19 pm

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:12 am

Numbers as of now:

ANA: $62883333 with 23 players
BOS: $61527479 with 23 players
BUF: $57657500 with 22 players
CAR: $59212500 with 22 players
CBJ: $64634166 with 22 players
CGY: $60970267 with 25 players
CHI: $63729125 with 22 players
COL: $60343750 with 25 players
DAL: $58823334 with 23 players
DET: $56822500 with 23 players
EDM: $60594166 with 22 players
FLA: $58475000 with 22 players
LA: $62637500 with 22 players
MIN: $63142184 with 22 players
MTL: $63012710 with 24 players
NAS: $64320833 with 22 players
NJ: $61920834 with 23 players
NYI: $63144271 with 21 players
NYR: $63134463 with 24 players
OTT: $57978750 with 22 players
PHI: $57381250 with 22 players
PHX: $63536250 with 22 players
PIT: $63018750 with 22 players
SJ: $63921734 with 22 players
STL: $62526545 with 22 players
TB: $62917921 with 23 players
TOR: $63649835 with 22 players
VAN: $56576248 with 24 players
WPG: $65187500 with 23 players
WSH: $61445248 with 23 players

NSH ans WPG are still not below the cap.
NYI still needs another player on his roster.

Finally, once CBJ's demotions get done, he'll be fine.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:29 am

Guys, we've tolerated teams' infractions so far but it's not going to be the case forever.
We don't have any teams in a world of trouble, it's just a matter of staying on top of things.

NSH: Your situation is easy to take care of. It really is.
NYI: Get a hold of me on skype. We'll figure something out. You also have Clutterbuck making more than the AHL limit down on your farm team.
WPG: Tom, you need to make some adjustements. Your team is great. You might lose someone in the process, but that's how it goes. You are not that far off, you just need to take care of it.

Here's a quick reminder of what's in the rulebook. We have been kind so far, keep that in mind.
B. Salary Cap Penalties
1. The following are the salary cap penalties for being over the NHL
salary cap.
A. First offense – Starting goaltender benched for that night’s
game – warning via PM
B. Second offense – Starting goaltender and top 3 overall
(OA) players benched for that night’s game – warning via
PM and email
C. Third offense – Automatic forfeit of game (will result in 1-0
loss); final warning via PM and email
D. Fourth offense – Removal from league

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:24 am

Everyone has been PMed.

NashvillePredatorsGM · Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:07 pm

Problem solved.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:49 pm

NSH and WPG made the necessary adjustments. Thanks boys.

ANA: $62883333 with 23 players
BOS: $61527479 with 23 players
BUF: $57657500 with 22 players
CAR: $59212500 with 22 players
CBJ: $64634166 with 22 players*
CGY: $60520267 with 24 players
CHI: $63729125 with 22 players
COL: $59143750 with 23 players
DAL: $58823334 with 23 players
DET: $56822500 with 23 players
EDM: $60594166 with 22 players
FLA: $58475000 with 22 players
LA: $62637500 with 22 players
MIN: $63142184 with 22 players
MTL: $63012710 with 24 players
NAS: $62260833 with 22 players
NJ: $61920834 with 23 players
NYI: $63144271 with 21 players**
NYR: $63134463 with 24 players
OTT: $57978750 with 22 players
PHI: $57381250 with 22 players
PHX: $63536250 with 22 players
PIT: $63018750 with 22 players
SJ: $63921734 with 22 players
STL: $62526545 with 22 players
TB: $62917921 with 23 players
TOR: $63649835 with 22 players
VAN: $56576248 with 24 players
WPG: $63487500 with 22 players
WSH: $61445248 with 23 players

* CBJ is under the cap after the latest promotion/demotion.
** Waiting to hear back from Chris.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:46 pm

Guys -- glad to see folks taking care of their cap issues. We will try to keep team's salaries updated throughout the season, as well as a thread to list all buyouts.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:48 pm

Commish Bub(NYR) wrote:Guys -- glad to see folks taking care of their cap issues. We will try to keep team's salaries updated throughout the season, as well as a thread to list all buyouts.

Buyouts list should be up to date.

Numbers after tonight's sim, all trades entered but COL-TB.

ANA: $62883333 with 23 players
BOS: $61527479 with 23 players
BUF: $57657500 with 22 players
CAR: $59212500 with 22 players
CBJ: $63584166 with 22 players
CGY: $60370267 with 23 players
CHI: $64504125 with 23 players
COL: $59143750 with 23 players
DAL: $58823334 with 23 players
DET: $56822500 with 23 players
EDM: $60594166 with 22 players
FLA: $58475000 with 22 players
LA: $62637500 with 22 players
MIN: $63142184 with 22 players
MTL: $63612710 with 25 players
NAS: $62260833 with 22 players
NJ: $61920834 with 23 players
NYI: $63144271 with 21 players
NYR: $63134463 with 24 players
OTT: $57978750 with 22 players
PHI: $57381250 with 22 players
PHX: $63536250 with 22 players
PIT: $63018750 with 22 players
SJ: $63921734 with 22 players
STL: $62526545 with 22 players
TB: $62917921 with 23 players
TOR: $65049836 with 24 players
VAN: $56576248 with 24 players
WPG: $64837500 with 23 players
WSH: $61445248 with 23 players

AP21 (ARZ) · Post by **AP21 (ARZ)** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:57 am

My team initials should be "ARZ". Also, this thread should replace the one made by Washington at the top of the League Memos section. Either merge the two or delete the old one.

AP21 (ARZ) · Post by **AP21 (ARZ)** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:58 am

My team initials should be "ARZ". Also, this thread should replace the one made by Washington at the top of the League Memos section. Either merge the two or delete the old one.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:59 am

You're right about the two different threads.
As far as initials go, the program I'm using is set to work with this very specific PHX abbreviation.
I don't know how to change it since it's been made by Tim. (Former CapsGM)

Sorry, that's not happening.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:15 pm

Updated numbers:

ANA: $62883333 with 23 players
BOS: $61527479 with 23 players
BUF: $57957500 with 22 players
CAR: $59212500 with 22 players
CBJ: $63891666 with 22 players
CGY: $60820267 with 24 players
CHI: $63855000 with 23 players
COL: $61792875 with 23 players
DAL: $63029582 with 23 players
DET: $59772500 with 26 players
EDM: $60594166 with 22 players
FLA: $58475000 with 22 players
LA: $62637500 with 22 players
MIN: $63142184 with 22 players
MTL: $59625208 with 23 players
NAS: $63910833 with 24 players
NJ: $61920834 with 23 players
NYI: $63944271 with 22 players
NYR: $62071963 with 23 players
OTT: $58694750 with 23 players
PHI: $58571250 with 22 players
PHX: $63086250 with 22 players
PIT: $63018750 with 22 players
SJ: $63921734 with 22 players
STL: $62526545 with 22 players
TB: $63617921 with 23 players
TOR: $63649835 with 22 players
VAN: $53770000 with 23 players
WPG: $63747500 with 22 players
WSH: $61445248 with 23 players

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:39 pm

Good to see. Only one team with an overage of players, and one team with too many underagers on the farm. They've been notified.

AP21 (ARZ) · Post by **AP21 (ARZ)** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:53 pm

Calgary.Flames wrote:You're right about the two different threads.
As far as initials go, the program I'm using is set to work with this very specific PHX abbreviation.
I don't know how to change it since it's been made by Tim. (Former CapsGM)

Sorry, that's not happening.

All right, I'll just wait a few years. You won't have choice once we become the Quebec City Coyotes.

IslandersGM · Post by **IslandersGM** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:02 am

All right, I'll just wait a few years. You won't have choice once we become the Quebec City Coyotes.

Actually I think it'll be the Seattle Sasquatch first or maybe they bring back the Scouts in Kansas. Quebec will be the Panthers or Hurricanes. THere is already fewer teams in the west so moving a team from West to East would throw out the divisions again. ...hmmm maybe that's a good thing?

Good to have this thread though.

Bruins_GM · Post by **Bruins_GM** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:32 pm

I like building this team, but I'd take an expansion team in a heartbeat.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:18 pm

ANA: $62317857 with 24 players
BOS: $61627479 with 23 players
BUF: $62257500 with 22 players
CAR: $59212500 with 22 players
CBJ: $62891666 with 23 players
CGY: $62495267 with 24 players
CHI: $63252500 with 24 players
COL: $54145375 with 23 players
DAL: $61492082 with 22 players
DET: $59222500 with 24 players
EDM: $60594166 with 22 players
FLA: $63475000 with 22 players
LA: $62767500 with 22 players
MIN: $63142184 with 22 players
MTL: $62511458 with 24 players
NAS: $59520833 with 24 players
NJ: $52955834 with 23 players
NYI: $63944271 with 22 players
NYR: $61290713 with 23 players
OTT: $58207250 with 22 players
PHI: $57732500 with 22 players
PHX: $63086250 with 22 players
PIT: $63618750 with 22 players
SJ: $64441733 with 22 players
STL: $62526545 with 22 players
TB: $63567919 with 23 players
TOR: $63599835 with 23 players
VAN: $52870000 with 24 players
WPG: $61797500 with 24 players
WSH: $54645248 with 25 players

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:42 pm

ANA: $62317857 with 24 players
BOS: $61627479 with 23 players
BUF: $62682500 with 22 players
CAR: $59212500 with 22 players
CBJ: $62891666 with 23 players
CGY: $61245267 with 23 players
CHI: $61532250 with 24 players
COL: $54570375 with 24 players
DAL: $63617082 with 23 players
DET: $62572500 with 22 players
EDM: $61337916 with 22 players
FLA: $63475000 with 22 players
LA: $63187500 with 22 players
MIN: $59042184 with 23 players
MTL: $61368458 with 23 players
NAS: $63135833 with 24 players
NJ: $61920834 with 23 players
NYI: $63944271 with 22 players
NYR: $61290713 with 23 players
OTT: $60707250 with 23 players
PHI: $56207500 with 22 players
PHX: $63086250 with 22 players
PIT: $63618750 with 22 players
SJ: $63940733 with 22 players
STL: $63676545 with 22 players
TB: $63642917 with 23 players
TOR: $63649835 with 22 players
VAN: $56020000 with 23 players
WPG: $61347500 with 24 players
WSH: $57145248 with 25 players

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:26 pm

For the record, Vik tells me my cap figure is 63,117,919.

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:53 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:For the record, Vik tells me my cap figure is 63,117,919.

That was before the Carrick/Eaton moves so you're now at 63,192,917. I already mentioned the difference to Julien, apparently there's some oddity with Avtsyn that's since been fixed. The Rangers are also missing Mark Streit's buyout and are actually at 63,615,713.

Believe the rest are accurate.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:28 am

Can I get a third count?

I'm getting 61624835 with 22 players + Wisniewski buyout

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:02 am

TorontoGM wrote:Can I get a third count?

I'm getting 61624835 with 22 players + Wisniewski buyout

Just added up your numbers manually and came to 63,649,835.

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:54 pm

ANA: $62317857 with 24 players
BOS: $61627479 with 23 players
BUF: $62682500 with 22 players
CAR: $59212500 with 22 players
CBJ: $62891666 with 23 players
CGY: $61245267 with 23 players
CHI: $61532250 with 24 players
COL: $54570375 with 24 players
DAL: $63617082 with 23 players
DET: $62572500 with 22 players
EDM: $61337916 with 22 players
FLA: $63475000 with 22 players
LA: $63187500 with 22 players
MIN: $59042184 with 23 players
MTL: $61368458 with 23 players
NAS: $63135833 with 24 players
NJ: $61920834 with 23 players
NYI: $63944271 with 22 players
NYR: $63615713 with 23 players
OTT: $60707250 with 23 players
PHI: $56207500 with 22 players
PHX: $63086250 with 22 players
PIT: $63618750 with 22 players
SJ: $63741734 with 22 players
STL: $63676545 with 22 players
TB: $63192917 with 22 players
TOR: $63649835 with 22 players
VAN: $56020000 with 23 players
WPG: $61347500 with 24 players
WSH: $57145248 with 25 players

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:49 pm

Ok i am no mathematician but wouldnt all of those UFA signings by Tampa Bay put them over the contract limit? By my count for sure....

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:56 pm

Singin the BLUES wrote:Ok i am no mathematician but wouldnt all of those UFA signings by Tampa Bay put them over the contract limit? By my count for sure....

Bub said they've got their list of releases ready so they should be getting back under (get ready for a bidding war on Dubielewicz).

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:59 pm

Well for TB sake these better be entered AFTER sim and not before, cause if a team is over by like 4-6 contracts BEFORE sim then something is fuckin wrong here.........

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:02 pm

And if it is after tonights sim, hopefully TB Gm made the adjustments to get to the 22 player limit.....

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:07 pm

Singin the BLUES wrote:Well for TB sake these better be entered AFTER sim and not before, cause if a team is over by like 4-6 contracts BEFORE sim then something is fuckin wrong here.........

Does it really matter if they're over for one day?

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:13 pm

Well.....if i was the Flyers GM......i always say no matter in what league i am in, and a few GMs can vouvh for me on this,,,,,,i always say....level playing field clear across the board......and i know that someone/anyone would bring it up if someone else did that kind of thing......it could effect the AHL standing, which in some ppls/Gms minds, mean something.....again, just my 2 cents worth

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:17 pm

Singin the BLUES wrote:Well.....if i was the Flyers GM......i always say no matter in what league i am in, and a few GMs can vouvh for me on this,,,,,,i always say....level playing field clear across the board......and i know that someone/anyone would bring it up if someone else did that kind of thing......it could effect the AHL standing, which in some ppls/Gms minds, mean something.....again, just my 2 cents worth

Wtf are you talking about? Tonight's UFAs are going in after the sim. Why get all cranky before you actually know anything?

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:46 pm

Ok so releases go BEFORE the sim.....but UFAs go after the sim....so either way , TB was over or under ......so isnt that a penalty? i am just asking cause i know that some Gms jump all over this shit either way.....me being one of them as i like ot have a level playing field for alll Gms and now seeing that TB was under the roster limit......so what happens now that this was brought up pre sim?

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:51 pm

Singin the BLUES wrote:Ok so releases go BEFORE the sim.....but UFAs go after the sim....so either way , TB was over or under ......so isnt that a penalty? i am just asking cause i know that some Gms jump all over this shit either way.....me being one of them as i like ot have a level playing field for alll Gms and now seeing that TB was under the roster limit......so what happens now that this was brought up pre sim?

Releases weren't entered either, it was the Giroux trade that has him under the roster limit. It has nothing to do with the UFAs and he's gaining no advantage from it so I don't see why there'd be any need to penalize him for it.

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:58 pm

Vik (Habs) wrote:
Singin the BLUES wrote:Ok so releases go BEFORE the sim.....but UFAs go after the sim....so either way , TB was over or under ......so isnt that a penalty? i am just asking cause i know that some Gms jump all over this shit either way.....me being one of them as i like ot have a level playing field for alll Gms and now seeing that TB was under the roster limit......so what happens now that this was brought up pre sim?
Releases weren't entered either, it was the Giroux trade that has him under the roster limit. It has nothing to do with the UFAs and he's gaining no advantage from it so I don't see why there'd be any need to penalize him for it.

under or over.....regardless of win or loss.....no advantage? IMO it dont matter , rules are rules and he was under......why have rules if no penalties are enforced at all....there has been a shitload of overs/unders in games and some have been wins and some losses.......some of the unders have been screw up in cap limits and what nots....alll i want is a level playing field like i said time and time again........Gms know well ahead of time, especially Mods/admins.......no excuses......i dont think this is my first time expresssing this kind of shit......IMO there has to be some kind of penalty for this shit, we get penalties for being a tad ove rthe cap, or for wrong line tactics, but why not too many players or not enough? To me it is all the same shit.......dress 22-25 player....be under cap or over the floor ...very simple....cant fuck that up right?

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:07 am

He wasn't over for the game, he just is at the moment (trades are entered after the sim). No sense making the simmer remember to enter a promotion at the end of the sim for him (since that's the only time it would've been necessary).

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:11 am

Jim, I can understand your frustration about the things you mentioned. Luckily, we are blessed to have Vik as a GM. Things have been closely monitored this year, roster infractions are being identified at a high level.

I was aware of the fact all of these signings would put me over the roster size maximum. I had a list of players to release IF the bids won. I did not want to release a player only to find out my bid had been exceeded. When it comes to roster sizes, 24-48 hours is a reasonable amount of time to fluctuate between legal and over.

For the other things you mentioned, a group of teams have gone over the cap. For some of them, it's been more then once. However, it's been fixed relatively quickly. I am not sure what it says in the rulebook about exceeding the salary cap for a couple of days. It's another thing to look at for next season; is there a thread about rule changes for next season?

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:23 am

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Jim, I can understand your frustration about the things you mentioned. Luckily, we are blessed to have Vik as a GM. Things have been closely monitored this year, roster infractions are being identified at a high level.

I was aware of the fact all of these signings would put me over the roster size maximum. I had a list of players to release IF the bids won. I did not want to release a player only to find out my bid had been exceeded. When it comes to roster sizes, 24-48 hours is a reasonable amount of time to fluctuate between legal and over.

For the other things you mentioned, a group of teams have gone over the cap. For some of them, it's been more then once. However, it's been fixed relatively quickly. I am not sure what is in the rulebook about exceeding the salary cap for a couple of days. It's another thing to look at for next season; is there a thread about rule changes for next season?

Well IMO there shouldnt be no "next season" ....like i keep on saying...level playing field for all.......no level playing field for all is the reason i have quit a few leagues....i am not into...oh the excuse and this excuse...fuck that....every GM knows the rules and knows better, especially in THIS league....especailly if you are an Admin or Mod....And there shouldnt be any of this...well just in case i didint win the bid on that UFA shit....manage your team accordingly period....i put in a shitload of time and thought into my players and my team at the beginning and mid season in this league and a shitload of Gms love to play stupid and forget the cap or roster limit and get past it every day by lame ass comments...and TBH i am sick of it .....We all know our cap limit, we all know our player limit, we all know our trades..,...fucking deal with it and man up when you screw up....not an OPPPPPPS.....I see this league trying to be the same as the NHL in so many ways.....well....you can not get over/under the cap limit by a day or 2 in the NHL, so you shouldnt here.....live by the rules die by the rules...simple as that......there is simply too many teams gettin by by the loopholes or stupidity by some in here IMO ...again...just my 2 cents....as reallly.....i dont give a fuck...cause if you have to win by cheating....you arent a winner at all period.....take it as you want.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:30 am

The passion and care you show for your team and EHEC is awesome. I agree that we should always be trying to replicate the NHL as close as possible. With the amazing staff we have, I am sure we will always aim for that standard as best we can.

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:36 am

Well.....IMO start penalizing teams like you would according to the rules on other rules that would have the same implications as being over/under the roster limits......like i keep saying....level playing field clear across the board.....not just for a chosen few Gms.......IMO each and every infraction should have a penalty......we are very capable Gms here and i would think that with one or 2 penalties given out, that would smarten up alot of the slack we have in here period....again, just my 2 cents worth

BlackHawk Down (Seb) · Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:51 am

May I propose solutions/ideas:

I think we should not be allowed any moves (trades/signings) that put a team over the cap/roster limit. Because it is where teams break rules after some moves. So, If a team wants to sign a guy, he needs to be at 49 contracts or lower. If a team wants to acquire 4 guys against 2 put that puts him over the limit, he needs to release 2 guys before the trade, not after. If a team wants to trade players, the players he receives need to fit the cap. If a team would exceed the cap with a trade, but would fit the cap with a demotion once the deal is entered, this should be mentionned as soon as the deal is posted.

As for injuries that bring call-ups that put teams over the cap: If we want to play with a firm cap, I think the only solution is that If an injury brings you over the cap ( and you havent kept room for that ) you have either your best player out or something... Because these over the cap issues will happen because of injuries (although they shouldnt) and you should not be allowed an extra player that make you bust the cap.

I was penalized because a move I made earlier this season put me over the cap. Should have planned my things better. Lesson learned.

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:59 am

BlackHawk Down (Seb) wrote:May I propose solutions/ideas:

I think we should not be allowed any moves (trades/signings) that put a team over the cap/roster limit. Because it is where teams break rules after some moves. So, If a team wants to sign a guy, he needs to be at 49 contracts or lower. If a team wants to acquire 4 guys against 2 put that puts him over the limit, he needs to release 2 guys before the trade, not after. If a team wants to trade players, the players he receives need to fit the cap. If a team would exceed the cap with a trade, but would fit the cap with a demotion once the deal is entered, this should be mentionned as soon as the deal is posted.

As for injuries that bring call-ups that put teams over the cap: If we want to play with a firm cap, I think the only solution is that If an injury brings you over the cap ( and you havent kept room for that ) you have either your best player out or something... Because these over the cap issues will happen because of injuries (although they shouldnt) and you should not be allowed an extra player that make you bust the cap.

I was penalized because a move I made earlier this season put me over the cap. Should have planned my things better. Lesson learned.

Exactly....you were pretty much my prime suspect inthings dont right snd by the rules and yes you did get a penalty......and so should other teams......i keep on saying and i wil say it again....LEVEL PLAYING FIELD......one GM gets fucked with it....alll should get fucked with it....plain and simple......Do i need to explain it further? Or will someone finally take notice now?

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:06 am

So you guys are volunteering to monitor rosters on a day to day basis?

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:11 am

How hard is it to count? Didnt you do that in school?
...oh wait...most of you younger folk do not know how to add and whatever without a calculator or google....lmao.....sorry.....fuck i feel very very very bad for this worlds future OMFG

22-1 = 21

do that in ur head......easy isnt it?
no if you can do that, you too can figure out your own cap space and player limits.....r u fuckin kidding me?

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:16 am

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Jim, I can understand your frustration about the things you mentioned. Luckily, we are blessed to have Vik as a GM. Things have been closely monitored this year, roster infractions are being identified at a high level.

I was aware of the fact all of these signings would put me over the roster size maximum. I had a list of players to release IF the bids won. I did not want to release a player only to find out my bid had been exceeded. When it comes to roster sizes, 24-48 hours is a reasonable amount of time to fluctuate between legal and over.

For the other things you mentioned, a group of teams have gone over the cap. For some of them, it's been more then once. However, it's been fixed relatively quickly. I am not sure what it says in the rulebook about exceeding the salary cap for a couple of days. It's another thing to look at for next season; is there a thread about rule changes for next season?

Do you really think NHL Gms think this way? Come on give ur head a shake.......r u a fuckin amateur? ...hmmm welll every Gm should have this mentality....hmmm ill put in 20 UFA offers...but IF i dont get them will then this is what i MIGHT do........fuckin wake up seriously buddy

Singin the BLUES · Post by **Singin the BLUES** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:21 am

Gotta love how quickly TB Gm is entering this shit into EHM......if this goes unpenalized....i am out of this league........this is for SURE...not cool or good for league......so take you stance now Gms

Vik (Habs) · Post by **Vik (Habs)** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:23 am

Singin the BLUES wrote:How hard is it to count? Didnt you do that in school?
...oh wait...most of you younger folk do not know how to add and whatever without a calculator or google....lmao.....sorry.....fuck i feel very very very bad for this worlds future OMFG

22-1 = 21

do that in ur head......easy isnt it?
no if you can do that, you too can figure out your own cap space and player limits.....r u fuckin kidding me?

No need to get confrontational about it. It's just an EHM league. And unless we're just trusting everyone to keep in line, someone will have to monitor things (as Mike said).

Singin the BLUES wrote:Do you really think NHL Gms think this way? Come on give ur head a shake.......r u a fuckin amateur?

Wait, are we getting paid to be in this league?

Singin the BLUES wrote:...hmmm welll every Gm should have this mentality....hmmm ill put in 20 UFA offers...but IF i dont get them will then this is what i MIGHT do........fuckin wake up seriously buddy

The alternative is to release them first and then sign guys but then he'd have a whole bunch of fast-signs and would again be over the limit. He'd then have to release the fast-signs which would just be cruel to whoever's simming.

Again, it's just an EHM league. So long as no one's getting an advantage from temporarily being over/under various rules, what difference does it make? It's still a level playing field. Just relax and try to enjoy your hobby.

Singin the BLUES wrote:Gotta love how quickly TB Gm is entering this shit into EHM......if this goes unpenalized....i am out of this league........this is for SURE...not cool or good for league......so take you stance now Gms

He posted his releases so what's the problem?

Bruins_GM · Post by **Bruins_GM** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:26 am

BlackHawk Down (Seb) wrote:May I propose solutions/ideas:

I think we should not be allowed any moves (trades/signings) that put a team over the cap/roster limit. Because it is where teams break rules after some moves. So, If a team wants to sign a guy, he needs to be at 49 contracts or lower. If a team wants to acquire 4 guys against 2 put that puts him over the limit, he needs to release 2 guys before the trade, not after. If a team wants to trade players, the players he receives need to fit the cap. If a team would exceed the cap with a trade, but would fit the cap with a demotion once the deal is entered, this should be mentionned as soon as the deal is posted.

As for injuries that bring call-ups that put teams over the cap: If we want to play with a firm cap, I think the only solution is that If an injury brings you over the cap ( and you havent kept room for that ) you have either your best player out or something... Because these over the cap issues will happen because of injuries (although they shouldnt) and you should not be allowed an extra player that make you bust the cap.

I was penalized because a move I made earlier this season put me over the cap. Should have planned my things better. Lesson learned.

Isn't that how the NHL CBA works?