2013 Draft Class/Offseason Thread

Calgary.Flames · Post by **Calgary.Flames** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:53 pm

Is the file updated with the improved AHL rosters from after the AHL playoffs?

Bruins_GM · Post by **Bruins_GM** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:00 pm

What was the rule on players who were turning 20 during the AHL season? I know I can have 3 u20s on the team, but I remember some sort of rule if a 19 year old turned 20 before/after a certain date, that they didn't count against that.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:09 pm

Bruins_GM wrote:What was the rule on players who were turning 20 during the AHL season? I know I can have 3 u20s on the team, but I remember some sort of rule if a 19 year old turned 20 before/after a certain date, that they didn't count against that.

I think it's Sept 15.

Post by **SharksGM** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:19 pm

Anyone who turns 20 before Dec. 31st is cool.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:37 pm

So are you asking if you can have more than three u20 players if at least one of them hits 20 before Dec. 31?

Bruins_GM · Post by **Bruins_GM** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:44 pm

I was. None of my ELCs would this time around, but I was under the impression that that was the rule last season.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:46 pm

I must've missed that from last year.

Adam can address this when he gets back later.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:37 am

SharksGM wrote:Anyone who turns 20 before Dec. 31st is cool.

Bingo.

That's what the AHL/CHL transfer agreement says IIRC.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:11 am

List of boosters:

Shmelev (CGY)
Gareev (CHI)
Corbett (CBJ)
Kilnar, Boucher (EDM)
Ceci, Gunnarsson (LA)
Lindholm, Kerdiles, Melindy (NYR)
Ully (TB)
Wheaton (VAN)
Pesce (WSH)

VancouverCanucksGM · Post by **VancouverCanucksGM** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:26 am

Is that a list of guys that DID boost, of guys that COULD boost?

If so, Carrier should be on my list.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:28 am

VancouverCanucksGM wrote:Is that a list of guys that DID boost, of guys that COULD boost?

If so, Carrier should be on my list.

That did boost from looking at the Team News tab. There may be more, but I haven't looked at players.ehm yet. Seems like a low number.

Edit: For example, Cristoval Nieves boosted for me, but was not listed in the News tab.

Carrier did not boost.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:17 pm

Brennan Serville boosted once, up to 68 POT. Good for him; now his floor is that of a good AHL blueliner. 78 POT next year!

Tyler Hill apparently did not boost, the fucker. Oh well, he's high-risk/high-reward for a reason. Maybe next year.

At least Luca Hischier didn't POT drop.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:28 pm

Pesce boost is no surprise. Too bad his upside is still a #6 defenseman.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:35 pm

Woot! Hit the Trifecta! If I had a kid, I'd change his/her name to Hampus.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:36 pm

Not sure if this happened last rollover or not, but Lukas Sutter boosted for Calgary, Lukas Sieber boosted for Chicago, I believe Joel Wigle boosted once for WPG, but I'm not sure, Taylor Leier boosted for CHI, I believe Wittchow boosted once for WSH (not sure if he was already 6 POT or not), Avery Peterson boosted once for WSH, Connor Rankin boosted for TB,

Wow, Cody Corbett actually double boosted for me. With 76 CON. Pleasant surprise. Has a shot at 75 OF 73+ DF, not bad for a sixth rounder.

Going through last year's draft class, a lot of boosters remain unsigned.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:39 pm

Adam, did Hill sign before the rollover or the day OF the rollover? I'd be a lot more comfortable with his lack of boosting if I knew he didn't sign his contract in time.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:43 pm

Parker wrote:Adam, did Hill sign before the rollover or the day OF the rollover? I'd be a lot more comfortable with his lack of boosting if I knew he didn't sign his contract in time.

I honestly don't remember and I advanced through the summer. I think he signed on 6/20, which is the day of the rollover, right? He was signed when I was going through News tabs to see who boosted.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:54 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Not sure if this happened last rollover or not, but Lukas Sutter boosted for Calgary, Lukas Sieber boosted for Chicago, I believe Joel Wigle boosted once for WPG, but I'm not sure, Taylor Leier boosted for CHI, I believe Wittchow boosted once for WSH (not sure if he was already 6 POT or not), Avery Peterson boosted once for WSH, Connor Rankin boosted for TB,

Wittchow boosted from previous years.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:56 pm

CapsGM wrote:Wittchow boosted from previous years.

Ok. This was his last shot at 7 POT, no? Or did he double boost once?

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:00 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
CapsGM wrote:Wittchow boosted from previous years.
Ok. This was his last shot at 7 POT, no? Or did he double boost once?

I think that was it - he double boosted last year but didn't boost the year before.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:01 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:I honestly don't remember and I advanced through the summer. I think he signed on 6/20, which is the day of the rollover, right? He was signed when I was going through News tabs to see who boosted.

Yeah, sounds like he signed during the rollover. I'm pretty sure a player has to already BE signed when the rollover happens. Maybe he'll triple-boost next year.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:03 pm

Parker wrote:
Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:I honestly don't remember and I advanced through the summer. I think he signed on 6/20, which is the day of the rollover, right? He was signed when I was going through News tabs to see who boosted.
Yeah, sounds like he signed during the rollover. I'm pretty sure a player has to already BE signed when the rollover happens. Maybe he'll triple-boost next year.

I think you're right -- has to be before the rollover. But he can double one year and single the next, right? Or go single-single-single?

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:29 pm

Bub(NYR) wrote:I think you're right -- has to be before the rollover. But he can double one year and single the next, right? Or go single-single-single?

I've heard anectodal evidence from fairly reliable sources that guys can boost as late as age 23, so it's not like the player only has three chances. The chance of boosting is supposed to decrease the older a player gets, though.

I've never personally heard of nor seen a triple-boost before, but yeah, a double and a single could certainly happen.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:31 pm

Parker wrote:
Bub(NYR) wrote:I think you're right -- has to be before the rollover. But he can double one year and single the next, right? Or go single-single-single?
I've heard anectodal evidence from fairly reliable sources that guys can boost as late as age 23, so it's not like the player only has three chances. The chance of boosting is supposed to decrease the older a player gets, though.

I've never personally heard of nor seen a triple-boost before, but yeah, a double and a single could certainly happen.

I thought it had to be during the first contract? Maybe not.

I'm sure your sources would know better than I would.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:05 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:I thought it had to be during the first contract? Maybe not.

I'm sure your sources would know better than I would.

I don't think EHM has any way of knowing how many contracts a player has been signed to, but I could be wrong.

Post by **SharksGM** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:32 pm

There was a 24 year old, 74 con prospect last offseason who boosted in some test sims. Forgot his name... Mike Duco maybe? He sucks either way.

Anyway, I got no boosts and EN drops to Thornton, Kronwall and Telegin, which is brutal.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:12 pm

SharksGM wrote:There was a 24 year old, 74 con prospect last offseason who boosted in some test sims. Forgot his name... Mike Duco maybe? He sucks either way.

Huh, that's weird; everyone has always agreed that 76 is the low-end cutoff for POT boosting eligibility.

You might be able to PHYSIC train those endurance numbers back up, but if the players have attributes above their ceilings, there's a risk those attributes will drop. That sucks though when older players end up with shitty endurance due to random bad luck.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:14 pm

SharksGM wrote:There was a 24 year old, 74 con prospect last offseason who boosted in some test sims. Forgot his name... Mike Duco maybe? He sucks either way.

Anyway, I got no boosts and EN drops to Thornton, Kronwall and Telegin, which is brutal.

I vaguely remember somebody telling me that 4x or 5x boosters can boost at 74 CON. I don't remember who, where, or when. I think I've tested it before in the draft class, but I don't remember.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:34 pm

I got a news message about a 25 year old prospect boost in my first EHM league many, many years ago. Carter Trevisani, I think it was. But I don't think his POT actually boosted...I just got a message saying it had.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:47 pm

Ugh, fucking Gudbranson showed up for camp out of shape. Now he's rocking a 58 CON with a terrible ceiling. It's gonna be tough to get him up to speed by the start of the season.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:50 pm

Reporting to camp in good shape: Ryan Jones
Reporting to camp in bad shape: Seth Jones

FUCK YOU EHM AND YOUR SHITTY SENSE OF HUMOR

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:54 pm

Prospects can't boost to 7x after age 20, but they can boost up to 6x. And I don't think more than a 2x boost in a year is possible. I hope. Pierre "Stuff-of-EHM-Legend" Gemerre went from 59 to 79 in his early prospect days.

...I'm a little bummed that Nik Prokhorkin was left on the farm team before the rollover, but I'll get over it.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:00 pm

Jungle Cats wrote:Prospects can't boost to 7x after age 20, but they can boost up to 6x. And I don't think more than a 2x boost in a year is possible. I hope. Pierre "Stuff-of-EHM-Legend" Gemerre went from 59 to 79 in his early prospect days.

...I'm a little bummed that Nik Prokhorkin was left on the farm team before the rollover, but I'll get over it.

Sorry. Does that actually have an effect on boosting?

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:40 pm

afaik - or recall, anyway - a player has to be signed to a contract and on the pro team roster to boost.

maybe?

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:44 pm

I read that on the fhockey boards once, and then a cranky old-timer know-it-all posted that that was bullshit. So...who knows.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:48 pm

I thought you had to send him back to juniors?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:58 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:I thought you had to send him back to juniors?

Ully wasn't sent back to juniors and he boosted. When I checked to see if Nieves boosted, he was back on my pro roster when he boosted I think.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:59 pm

Jungle Cats wrote:afaik - or recall, anyway - a player has to be signed to a contract and on the pro team roster to boost.

maybe?

Being on the farm might be a problem, since EHM doesn't allow u20 to the farm. If it is, I'm really sorry, Zaq.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:30 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Being on the farm might be a problem, since EHM doesn't allow u20 to the farm. If it is, I'm really sorry, Zaq.

That could explain why Kiselevich has never boosted despite his 61/79ness.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:16 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Bernier for a 1st

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Please, someone prove me wrong about just exactly how insane an asking price this is.

MinnesotaGM · Post by **MinnesotaGM** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:20 pm

I drafted Evgeni Gureyev, D, Yaroslavl Jr. (RUS) and hes showing up on MTL roster?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:22 pm

MinnesotaGM wrote:I drafted Evgeni Gureyev, D, Yaroslavl Jr. (RUS) and hes showing up on MTL roster?

Thanks. Edited.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:22 am

Parker wrote:
Tampa Bay GM wrote:Bernier for a 1st
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Please, someone prove me wrong about just exactly how insane an asking price this is.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:54 am

Connor Rankin was a double boost fyi

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:35 am

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:46 am

What's more appropriate:

this...

or this?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:10 pm

Will there be rewards for posting team draft reviews?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:12 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Will there be rewards for posting team draft reviews?

Haven't really thought about it. We've done it the last two years, so I imagine I could come up with something once the initial FA frenzy is gone.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:37 pm

I drafted Ben Harpur but he's listed as Dallas property.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:09 am

CapsGM wrote:I drafted Ben Harpur but he's listed as Dallas property.

My bad. I fixed it.