ATL to WPG; Re-alignment

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:15 pm

Who knows if this will actually happen...but consider this. If ATL moves to the Peg, Minnesota moves to the Central Division. Then, Columbus or Nashville moves to the Southeast. Imagine a Southeast Division in EHEC of Tampa, Carolina, Washington, and Columbus.

Might as well use this as the parent thread for all of the potential relocation/re-alignment chatter.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:26 pm

Tampa, Carolina, Washington, and Columbus would be epic.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:03 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Tampa, Carolina, Washington, and Columbus would be epic.

LOL...no love for Florida!

GoJetsGo · Post by **GoJetsGo** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:58 pm

Please, please, please let this happen. Naturally, I'd never be able to defeat a loaded Phoenix squad.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Wed May 18, 2011 6:54 pm

Great, so I can look forward to a 115 point season seeding 4th in the SE and 6th in the conference?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed May 18, 2011 7:27 pm

what does it matter rly? other then home ice in PO (count me as someone that doesn't think it matters to much in EHM/irl), if your the best team in the league/cup champs you should be able to beat anyone anytime. i guess you could argue having to play longer series against better teams wearing on your team, but those are the fun ones to watch anyway.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:10 pm

you forget that my team only cares about the regular season

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:19 pm

CapsGM wrote:you forget that my team only cares about the regular season

Because Russians only care til they stop getting paid.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:46 pm

Columbus won't be moving to the Southeast as per TSN Dreger and B-Mac it would be Nashville.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:49 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:Columbus won't be moving to the Southeast as per TSN Dreger and B-Mac it would be Nashville.

Columbus needs it more. I think it's a mistake. If Bettman's so anti-relocation, he should know this. Columbus needs the draw of Crosby and Ovechkin more than Nashville does. Not to mention, CBJ fans might give a shit if road games start at 7 on TV instead of 9 and 10 pm.

Big mistake for the future of hockey in Columbus.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:54 pm

Well at the same time you have to look at it this way. Nashville has an oustanding fan base, and to me, they're going to follow that team no matter what. By relocating them conference wise, they are still going to pull in strong numbers.

With that being said, I honestly doubt any re-location happens. I'd be surprised. Especially since I don't see where the huge draw from Winnipeg comes from. They've tried before, and failed.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed May 18, 2011 9:03 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:With that being said, I honestly doubt any re-location happens. I'd be surprised. Especially since I don't see where the huge draw from Winnipeg comes from. They've tried before, and failed.

Like choosing between herpes and syphilis. Atlanta's a bad hockey market and the team is locked in a HORRIBLE arena agreement. They tried working the black angle with some of the black players they've added, but it's just not going to work.

The novelty of Winnipeg will sustain itself for 5-10 years and then they'll be in the same spot again. Or so I assume.

They're the only city really vying for a team. The NHL doesn't want to have to take over ATL like they did PHX. The board and the owners won't stand for it again.

Post by **SharksGM** » Wed May 18, 2011 9:05 pm

I like the comments on Bill Daly on all of the 'behind the scenes' work they've done to keep the team in Atlanta. Yeah, sure. They've fought tooth and nail to keep Phoenix afloat to the point of literally taking control of them team; but the even bigger market of Atlanta doesn't deserve any help because...?

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Wed May 18, 2011 9:42 pm

Gotta be nashville, it's the only team that would make any sense in the 'southeast' -
I'm pro-Peg, I just hate the idea of the Avs getting bumped from the Northwest, which I've always heard is more likely than Minny moving (proximity to Winnipeg). That means a lot less Avs on TV. Minnesota can go - they're closer to that little cluster called the 'central' anyway. (I guess I can empathize with Adam about start times... course, I live on the coast...)

Too bad about atlanta really, they could've built something there, the franchise didn't endear itself with a decade of shooting itself in the foot - this was the year to turn the corner, I guess - and they have a lovely arena. Does seem odd where the league will bend over backwards and then some to save a team... and then look the other way. Not big on Atlanta bowing out, would've preferred they fix the phoenix problem - which isn't going away.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Thu May 19, 2011 10:53 pm

Why would Winnipeg want some debt stricken franchise like Atlanta or Phoenix?

jamesredwings · Post by **jamesredwings** » Fri May 20, 2011 10:16 am

Cheaper to buy then setup a new franchise and revenues will be higher there

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Fri May 20, 2011 8:39 pm

Revenues don't mean shit when team is already in debt before even playing a game.

What happens when this 2nd chance fails?

StarStruck · Post by **StarStruck** » Fri May 27, 2011 3:31 pm

TorontoGM wrote:Revenues don't mean shit when team is already in debt before even playing a game.

What happens when this 2nd chance fails?

Contraction?

GM Office Q · Post by **GM Office Q** » Fri May 27, 2011 3:36 pm

StarStruck wrote:
TorontoGM wrote:Revenues don't mean shit when team is already in debt before even playing a game.

What happens when this 2nd chance fails?
Contraction?

Not if Gary Bettman is in charge.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:16 am

Looks like I'll be editing config_teams.ehm, arenas, and logos again.

Congratulations Winnipeg. I hope it still works after the novelty wears off.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:10 pm

Pretty surreal, rocking my game worn Bob Essensa jersey right now. I remember crying myself to sleep when they were leaving, this feels pretty good.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:28 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Pretty surreal, rocking my game worn Bob Essensa jersey right now. I remember crying myself to sleep when they were leaving, this feels pretty good.

ESS-EN-SA THE SAVE!

Hey Atlanta, want to trade franchises? I took Phoenix over Calgary primarily because I thought there was a good chance the Coyotes would move back. I never expected it to be a DIFFERENT team relocating.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:47 pm

BYFUGLIEN WINNIPEG JERSEY FOR MY BIRTHDAY PLEASE BOYS! AUGUST 16TH...

GoJetsGo · Post by **GoJetsGo** » Tue May 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Parker wrote:
Tampa Bay GM wrote:Pretty surreal, rocking my game worn Bob Essensa jersey right now. I remember crying myself to sleep when they were leaving, this feels pretty good.
ESS-EN-SA THE SAVE!

Hey Atlanta, want to trade franchises? I took Phoenix over Calgary primarily because I thought there was a good chance the Coyotes would move back. I never expected it to be a DIFFERENT team relocating.

As long as Doan, Staal and few others stay in Phoenix.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Tue May 31, 2011 6:23 pm

I can't wait till this fails again.

GM Office Q · Post by **GM Office Q** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:15 pm

Winnipeg playing in the Southeast division smells like Phoenix (or another franchise) might be moving as well before 12/13, not surprisingly.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:39 pm

TorontoGM wrote:I can't wait till this fails again.

Fuck you, + anyone who feels this way.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:55 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:
TorontoGM wrote:I can't wait till this fails again.
Fuck you, + anyone who feels this way.

In no way do I hate the jets or the fans, and I hope they succeed but I can see Bettman fucking this up somehow.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:12 pm

TorontoGM wrote:
Tampa Bay GM wrote:
TorontoGM wrote:I can't wait till this fails again.
Fuck you, + anyone who feels this way.
In no way do I hate the jets or the fans, and I hope they succeed but I can see Bettman fucking this up somehow.

Pfff, if the Peg can average 1st or 2nd in AHL attendance each year I'm sure with the ticket prices they announced they can sell out every night or close to. Then, Bettman can't do shit.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:12 pm

ThrashersGM wrote:As long as Doan, Staal and few others stay in Phoenix.

That was the idea, actually. Trade franchises - all players, prospects, and draft picks go with them.

Especially if I win the Cup this year - after that there'll be nowhere to go but down and a rebuilding franchise would actually be a lot more fun than just trying to stay on top.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:15 pm

TorontoGM wrote:I can't wait till this fails again.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Fuck you, + anyone who feels this way.

Yeah. That's a pretty insensitive and rude thing to say, Toronto. Why would you want a Winnipeg-based NHL team to fail?

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:22 pm

Parker wrote:
TorontoGM wrote:I can't wait till this fails again.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Fuck you, + anyone who feels this way.
Yeah. That's a pretty insensitive and rude thing to say, Toronto. Why would you want a Winnipeg-based NHL team to fail?

I never said I wanted it to fail. I want Bettman to fail.

Is it true they are asking season ticket holders to commit for 7 years?

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:29 am

TorontoGM wrote:I never said I wanted it to fail. I want Bettman to fail.

Is it true they are asking season ticket holders to commit for 7 years?

I think the absolute failure of the franchises in Atlanta and Phoenix make Bettman look like a pretty big idiot since he's the one who orchestrated those moves in the first place. That's the reason it's taking so long for these obvious mistakes to be corrected; Bettman has been doing everything in his power to keep the teams in towns where nobody gives a shit about hockey because letting them move back north is tantamount to admitting that his entire tenure as league commissioner has been a failure. I would be willing to bet that Winnipeg's NHL team sticks around longer than Gary Bettman remains NHL Commissioner.

As for the seven-year commitment, I honestly have no idea. What's the usual commitment for season tickets, one year at a time or what?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:52 am

No, there r options to commit between 3-5 years for the same seats. This also caps the yearly increase in cost at 3%.

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