Draft Chatter

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:08 pm

Guys, keep all commentary about the draft in here. I just want the picks in the Entry Draft forum.

DevilsGM · Post by **DevilsGM** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:52 pm

I wonder who is going 1st overall?

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:03 pm

well, gotta see that the Devils had a plan and got their guys.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:10 pm

Yeah, both those guys are absolute studs. When they're both fully developed they'll respectively be the top forward and defenceman in the entire league.

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:39 pm

and since atlanta and nyi haven't shown up yet, I'm going to lunch, nobody hate.

DevilsGM · Post by **DevilsGM** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:55 pm

Thanks guys, I had a couple deals fall into my lap it was just about pulling the right triggers. Now I feel my teams got the talent to compete. Throw in a bit more defensive depth and i think i got a pretty good team. Excited to see how the rest of the 1st round shakes down now and see everyones picks.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:09 pm

Jungle Cats wrote:and since atlanta and nyi haven't shown up yet, I'm going to lunch, nobody hate.

I've got NYI's pick. Whenever ATL picks, you'll be up.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:09 pm

After talking with you about Fowler, Mike could have had Hall at #3, so he basically gave you away that other 1st. Smart move Rob!

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:09 pm

Parker wrote:Yeah, both those guys are absolute studs. When they're both fully developed they'll respectively be the top forward and defenceman in the entire league.

Jesus. Guess I did make the draft a little bit too strong.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:37 pm

Parker wrote:Yeah, both those guys are absolute studs. When they're both fully developed they'll respectively be the top forward and defenceman in the entire league.

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Jesus. Guess I did make the draft a little bit too strong.

Maybe, but at least everyone has reason to get excited about their new prospects... this is no "only ten players out of the 180 drafted will ever be more than fringe NHLers" drafts. I might be biased though since I have so many picks.

But yeah, my projections (this is using (OF+DF)/2 rather than OA, which I consider to be an unreliable indication of value) show all of Seguin (87.4), Fowler (85.51), and Hall (85.1) better than the top-rated existing player (Zetterberg at 82.76). Niedermayer is at 80.85 while Iginla checks in at 80.83.

DevilsGM · Post by **DevilsGM** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:48 pm

Damn thats impressive thanks for the stat breakdown like that Parker. And thanks Pit I knew I had to take TO's deal either he scoops Fowler and I trade Hall for what I want or keep him and aquirre D some other way or Fowler, who I wanted with my 2nd pick, falls to me and I get a free pick on top of it.

Win Win!

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:25 pm

Win win!

Best name in the draft: PONTUS NETTERBERG

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:23 pm

Parker wrote:
Parker wrote:Yeah, both those guys are absolute studs. When they're both fully developed they'll respectively be the top forward and defenceman in the entire league.

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Jesus. Guess I did make the draft a little bit too strong.
Maybe, but at least everyone has reason to get excited about their new prospects... this is no "only ten players out of the 180 drafted will ever be more than fringe NHLers" drafts. I might be biased though since I have so many picks.

But yeah, my projections (this is using (OF+DF)/2 rather than OA, which I consider to be an unreliable indication of value) show all of Seguin (87.4), Fowler (85.51), and Hall (85.1) better than the top-rated existing player (Zetterberg at 82.76). Niedermayer is at 80.85 while Iginla checks in at 80.83.

What about Rick Nash? 86+88= 174, 174/2 = 87.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:58 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:What about Rick Nash? 86+88= 174, 174/2 = 87.

Oops.

You're absolutely right. My scouting workbook's calculations for veterans are a little screwy because it figures out everyone's attributes based on them hitting their ceilings. It doesn't take into consideration guys whose attributes are already higher than their ceilings would allow through normal development. I guess I better take back what I said above until I can make some adjustments to my workbook for more accurate veteran player analysis. My bad.

Post by **SharksGM** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:43 pm

Granberg is a bit of an off the board selection...

I think I asked this before but are we keeping any EHM generated pot boosts to high-con prospects? Not that these two comments are in any way related.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:44 pm

SharksGM wrote:Granberg is a bit of an off the board selection...

I think I asked this before but are we keeping any EHM generated pot boosts to high-con prospects? Not that these two comments are in any way related.

There's no rule on it, so I can't really put one in there now.

DevilsGM · Post by **DevilsGM** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:47 pm

Yea its a natural part of the game anyway and can be an interagual draft strategy so for sure I think it should be left alone.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:01 am

Nick won't be picking until the morning, so you guys can call it a night.

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:26 am

McIlrath's a nice pick, was the guy I would've taken at 13, were it not for his subhuman strength level and my desire to piss off my fans.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:37 am

Granberg is a steal. He did go early though. Wp to Zack and his wonderful Panthers.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:36 pm

IMO Granberg was too early, but we all have our own different values and opinions on players, your own opinion should only matter.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:36 pm

Guys, I really want to start moving this thing along. I know we're doing a lot of trading down and everything, but try to do some stuff in advance of your pick if you can.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:58 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:IMO Granberg was too early, but we all have our own different values and opinions on players, your own opinion should only matter.

I agree! His 90CON made me base my opinion.

DevilsGM · Post by **DevilsGM** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:07 pm

Nice pick Thrash, I was considering Forbort due to my need for D but he wasn't exactly what I wanted so I decided to go big or go home and instead traded for Kovy with you. On a side not how long are Kabanov and Johansen gonna free fall?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:09 pm

do we have a complete CSB ranking list in a .txt file or online somewhere for the league?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:10 pm

Tampa Bay GM wrote:do we have a complete CSB ranking list in a .txt file or online somewhere for the league?

There's http://centralscouting.nhl.com/

NashvilleGM · Post by **NashvilleGM** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:20 pm

I might of pick Shipley too early, but I was rushed. Didnt need a d-man so opted for a attacker.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:22 pm

NashvilleGM wrote:I might of pick Shipley too early, but I was rushed. Didnt need a d-man so opted for a attacker.

You rushed yourself, bud. I just wanted to know when you were around. I wasn't hurrying you to make your pick.

Blame the buzz on that.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:47 pm

NashvilleGM wrote:I might of pick Shipley too early, but I was rushed. Didnt need a d-man so opted for a attacker.

Shipley is a decent player, not too often you get 99 SH with 99 HIT.

DevilsGM · Post by **DevilsGM** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:51 pm

Not to mention if he overdevelops his skating and checking which is very realistic, assuming he's on D training, he'll be a steal.

NashvilleGM · Post by **NashvilleGM** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:52 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
NashvilleGM wrote:I might of pick Shipley too early, but I was rushed. Didnt need a d-man so opted for a attacker.
You rushed yourself, bud. I just wanted to know when you were around. I wasn't hurrying you to make your pick.

Blame the buzz on that.

haha no prob Adam, wasnt pointing out anyone except me

dont worry haha

should of prepared the field couple of days before, I had a couple of nice offers to consider

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:32 pm

Shipley was #1 on my list! (Reason why I traded LA 1st away)

Femur · Post by **Femur** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:30 pm

what happens if the draft is still going on when the regular season starts? any picks made after this can still be signed if we want, right?

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:36 pm

Femur wrote:what happens if the draft is still going on when the regular season starts? any picks made after this can still be signed if we want, right?

FTW

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:22 pm

Femur wrote:what happens if the draft is still going on when the regular season starts? any picks made after this can still be signed if we want, right?

Bub(NYR) wrote:FTW

Seconded. That's hilarious!

And um, hopefully not a serious question...

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:03 pm

Just a heads up. In the interest of expediency (that's saving time for you non-Thesaurus-oriented people out there), we are instituting a one Committee trade approval for the hours after Nick and Ryan go to bed. So that would be me. They both work early and EHEC is my job.

Just letting you all know. If I'm torn, I will talk to one of SJ (Dan) or PHX (Parker) and get their input.

It's a dictatorship now, boys.

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:20 pm

a dictatorship is the most efficient way to go. just watch out for your majordomo, el duce.

Femur · Post by **Femur** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:28 pm

fascist!

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:29 pm

Femur wrote:fascist!

When are we going golfing?

Femur · Post by **Femur** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:51 pm

soon. i need to get out and play

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:54 pm

Femur wrote:soon. i need to get out and play

I took Jennifer last Wednesday. She shot 88. On a par 30. I shot a 41.

Let me know a day you're free and we find a course with a good deal for 2 + cart.

Femur · Post by **Femur** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:56 pm

could be thursday this week? no sooner for sure, but right now it looks good

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:56 pm

Femur wrote:could be thursday this week? no sooner for sure, but right now it looks good

Yep, let me know.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:34 am

I really enjoy overpaying in a trade then regretting it later. But then again, I love being Brian Burke.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:14 am

TorontoGM wrote:I really enjoy overpaying in a trade then regretting it later. But then again, I love being Brian Burke.

Walters, you're not even Brian Burke. You're REJEAN HOULE.

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:05 am

So, Sens hasn't been online since Friday... are we supposing he had a rough weekend?

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:22 am

Seriously someone tell that guido to show up!!

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:30 pm

Brickley, eh. Now there's a serious wild card. With two POT boosts this guy would be the top player in the draft, but at only 78 CON he's kind of a longshot. Even if he gets one boost he'll be a very solid player. I was going to pick him myself but I was hoping he'd fall to the 3rd round. Gutsy move by Florida.

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:40 pm

I lost my early second rounder 'on a whim,' by making that trade with Adam to no discernible personal benefit (the kind of whimsy that costs real GMs their jobs!

), so I he kinda leaped up my list, since i'm next up at 55. And a guy like that, I know some wingnut in the 2nd round will jump on. One boost, he's quite good. Double boost, he's excellent.

NashvilleGM · Post by **NashvilleGM** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:30 pm

man, come on guys, this is taking forever...