November 30, 2013
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November 30, 2013
NYR 3 - VAN 2 (SO)
Shots: 24-21 NYR
PP: NYR - 0/3; VAN - 0/1
no scoring
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24:11 0-1 VAN Matthew Finn [1] (Cody McLeod, Chris Vande Velde)
29:15 0-2 VAN Jordan Schroeder [7] (Vladimir Mihalik, Rostislav Olesz)
29:34 1-2 NYR Adam Gilmour [4] (Dan Girardi, Jonas Brodin)
32:44 2-2 NYR Corey Perry [9] (Tom Kuehnhackl, Mark Streit)
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no scoring
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Shootout
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New York Rangers win 2-1
New York Rangers - Tom Kuehnhackl, goal; Ryan McDonagh, miss; Corey Perry, goal;
Vancouver Canucks - Mike Cammalleri, miss; Michael Frolík, goal; Filip Forsberg, miss;
Three stars:
1st star: Adam Gilmour
2nd star: Jordan Schroeder
3rd star: Corey Perry
Farm: Hartford 3 - Utica 2
BOS 4 - CBJ 2
Shots: 29-21 BOS
PP: BOS - 1/1; CBJ - 0/2
10:31 1-0 BOS Sven Baertschi [7] (Mark Stuart, Joe Colborne)
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20:49 1-1 CBS Joonas Donskoi [9] (Connor Murphy, Mattias Öhlund)
32:12 2-1 BOS Joe Colborne [9] (Riley Sheahan, Victor Hedman)PP
36:39 3-1 BOS Milan Lucic [9] (Joe Colborne, Jordan Caron)
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48:58 3-2 CBS Brendan Gaunce [1] (Phillip Danault, Derrick Pouliot)
59:56 4-2 BOS Tomas Hertl [4] (Denis Grebeshkov, Victor Hedman) EN
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Three stars:
1st star: Joe Colborne
2nd star: Milan Lucic
3rd star: Riley Sheahan
Farm: Providence 2 - Springfield 1
TOR 4 - MTL 0
Shots: 22-21 MTL
PP: MTL - 0/2; TOR - 1/3
13:21 0-1 TOR Zach Hamill [7] (Thomas Hickey, François Beauchemin)
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25:08 0-2 TOR Stanislav Galiev [8] (Alexander Semin)
35:54 0-3 TOR Alexander Semin [17] (Taylor Hall, Stanislav Galiev)PP
38:27 0-4 TOR François Beauchemin [1] (David Clarkson, Stanislav Galiev)
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no scoring
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Three stars:
1st star: Marc-André Fleury
2nd star: Stanislav Galiev
3rd star: Alexander Semin
Farm: Toronto 5 - Hamilton 3
PIT 3 - FLA 1
Shots: 33-13 PIT
PP: FLA - 0/4; PIT - 1/5
14:19 0-1 PIT Jonathon Blum [4] (Cody Hodgson, Chris Higgins)PP
17:34 0-2 PIT Brenden Morrow [7] (Patrick O'Sullivan, Paul Ranger)
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29:57 0-3 PIT Patrick O'Sullivan [3] (Jarome Iginla, Paul Ranger)
33:08 1-3 FLA Trevor Daley [2] (Paul Kariya, Connor Brickley)
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no scoring
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Three stars:
1st star: Patrick O'Sullivan
2nd star: Brenden Morrow
3rd star: Paul Ranger
Farm: SAR 2 - WBS 1
BUF 4 - NJ 1
Shots: 29-20 BUF
PP: NJ - 0/1; BUF - 1/4
19:41 0-1 BUF Ryan Hollweg [4] (Mike Weber, Brock Beukeboom)
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23:48 0-2 BUF Thomas Vanek [15] (Drew Stafford, Zack Kassian)PP
34:13 0-3 BUF Derek Roy [9] (Thomas Vanek, Philippe Gogulla)
37:45 1-3 NJ Blake Wheeler [6] (Mattias Tedenby, Nino Niederreiter)
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49:46 1-4 BUF Zack Kassian [12] (Nathan Beaulieu, Brock Beukeboom)
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Three stars:
1st star: Zack Kassian
2nd star: Thomas Vanek
3rd star: Jhonas Enroth
Farm: Albany 5 - Rochester 0
WSH 4 - NYI 1
Shots: 29-14 WSH
PP: NYI - 1/2; WSH - 2/7
08:39 0-1 WSH Wojtek Wolski [9] (Jean-Pierre Dumont)PP
17:25 0-2 WSH Jean-Pierre Dumont [9] (David Booth, Cam Barker)PP
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29:48 1-2 NYI Alex Goligoski [2] (Bruno Gervais, Ryan Strome)PP
31:49 1-3 WSH David Booth [10] (Wojtek Wolski)
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44:19 1-4 WSH Zach Parisé [9] (Vladimir Tarasenko, Andrei Markov)
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Three stars:
1st star: David Booth
2nd star: Wojtek Wolski
3rd star: Jean-Pierre Dumont
Farm: Bridgeport 7 - Hershey 6
NAS 7 - PHI 2
Shots: 26-19 NAS
PP: NAS - 1/5; PHI - 0/2
01:35 1-0 NAS Drew Miller [3] (Ryan Ellis, Shea Weber)
10:47 1-1 PHI Mark Scheifele [7] (Adam Larsson)
13:13 1-2 PHI Jeff Carter [9] (Daniel Brière, Chris Pronger)
14:42 2-2 NAS Sebastien Collberg [10])
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30:12 3-2 NAS Evgeny Kuznetsov [13] (Colin Wilson, Ryan Suter)
39:44 4-2 NAS Colin Wilson [10] (Evgeny Kuznetsov, Simon Gagné)
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45:27 5-2 NAS Colin Wilson [11] (Shea Weber, Ryan Suter)
49:49 6-2 NAS Simon Gagné [16] (Evgeny Kuznetsov, Colin Wilson)PP
57:24 7-2 NAS Drew Miller [4] (Ryan Suter, Steven Shipley)
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Three stars:
1st star: Colin Wilson
2nd star: Drew Miller
3rd star: Evgeny Kuznetsov
Farm: Milwaukee 3 - Adirondack 1
PHX 3 - CHI 1
Shots: 22-15 PHX
PP: PHX - 1/6; CHI - 0/2
19:21 1-0 PHO Mark Alt [3] (Kyle Quincey, Jordan Staal)PP
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34:48 2-0 PHO Tomas Kaberle [3] (Brett Connolly, Oliver Ekman-Larsson)
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47:41 3-0 PHO Shane Doan [11] (Brett Connolly, Oliver Ekman-Larsson)
49:16 3-1 CHI Brian Ward [2] (Wayne Simmonds, Niklas Hjalmarsson)
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Three stars:
1st star: Shane Doan
2nd star: Brett Connolly
3rd star: Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Farm: Portland 2 - Rockford 1
MIN 3 - COL 1
Shots: 25-18 MIN
PP: COL - 1/1; MIN - 0/5
09:41 0-1 MIN Louis Leblanc [3] (Michael Del Zotto, Nicklas Grossman)
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25:47 1-1 COL Kevin Klein [3] (Ryan Whitney, Gabriel Landeskog)PP
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44:54 1-2 MIN Nail Yakupov [9] (Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Peter Mueller)
48:07 1-3 MIN Ethan Werek [4] (Kirill Kabanov, Nail Yakupov)
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Three stars:
1st star: Nail Yakupov
2nd star: Louis Leblanc
3rd star: Peter Mueller
Farm: LEM 7 - Iowa 1
LA 5 - CGY 4 (OT)
Shots: 31-27 LA
PP: LA - 2/6; CGY - 1/2
04:28 0-1 CGY Dion Phaneuf [4])
12:26 1-1 LA Dustin Brown [9] (Kyle Beach, Mirko Hoefflin)PP
13:48 2-1 LA Andrew Ladd [14] (Kyle Beach, Jack Johnson)PP
14:18 2-2 CGY Quinton Howden [4])
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37:06 2-3 CGY Nikita Filatov [8] (Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson, Alexander Burmistrov)PP
38:07 3-3 LA Paul Stastny [17] (Steve Mason)
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47:47 3-4 CGY Georges Laraque [3] (Quinton Howden, Paul Dejersey)
56:08 4-4 LA Andrew Ladd [15] (Paul Stastny, Sidney Crosby)
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64:08 5-4 LA Dustin Brown [10] (Vitaly Anikeyenko)
Three stars:
1st star: Dustin Brown
2nd star: Andrew Ladd
3rd star: Paul Stastny
Farm: Abbotsford 6 - Manchester 2
SJ 5 - ANA 2
Shots: 26-16 SJ
PP: SJ - 0/1; ANA - 0/2
19:49 1-0 SJ Andrew Cogliano [10] (Erik Cole, Derek Forbort)
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29:14 2-0 SJ Tobias Tornkvist [3] (Erik Cole, Andrew Cogliano)
32:54 2-1 ANA Teuvo Teravainen [2] (Jakub Voracek, Trent Hunter)
39:29 2-2 ANA Braydon Coburn [2] (Nikolai Zherdev, Bobby Ryan)
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41:13 3-2 SJ Andrew Cogliano [11] (Erik Cole, Ryane Clowe)
41:59 4-2 SJ Erik Cole [6] (Andrew Cogliano, Derek Forbort)
55:51 5-2 SJ Joe Thornton [12])
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Three stars:
1st star: Andrew Cogliano
2nd star: Erik Cole
3rd star: Derek Forbort
Farm: Woostah 2 - Nawfik 1
Shots: 24-21 NYR
PP: NYR - 0/3; VAN - 0/1
no scoring
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24:11 0-1 VAN Matthew Finn [1] (Cody McLeod, Chris Vande Velde)
29:15 0-2 VAN Jordan Schroeder [7] (Vladimir Mihalik, Rostislav Olesz)
29:34 1-2 NYR Adam Gilmour [4] (Dan Girardi, Jonas Brodin)
32:44 2-2 NYR Corey Perry [9] (Tom Kuehnhackl, Mark Streit)
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no scoring
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Shootout
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New York Rangers win 2-1
New York Rangers - Tom Kuehnhackl, goal; Ryan McDonagh, miss; Corey Perry, goal;
Vancouver Canucks - Mike Cammalleri, miss; Michael Frolík, goal; Filip Forsberg, miss;
Three stars:
1st star: Adam Gilmour
2nd star: Jordan Schroeder
3rd star: Corey Perry
Farm: Hartford 3 - Utica 2
BOS 4 - CBJ 2
Shots: 29-21 BOS
PP: BOS - 1/1; CBJ - 0/2
10:31 1-0 BOS Sven Baertschi [7] (Mark Stuart, Joe Colborne)
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20:49 1-1 CBS Joonas Donskoi [9] (Connor Murphy, Mattias Öhlund)
32:12 2-1 BOS Joe Colborne [9] (Riley Sheahan, Victor Hedman)PP
36:39 3-1 BOS Milan Lucic [9] (Joe Colborne, Jordan Caron)
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48:58 3-2 CBS Brendan Gaunce [1] (Phillip Danault, Derrick Pouliot)
59:56 4-2 BOS Tomas Hertl [4] (Denis Grebeshkov, Victor Hedman) EN
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Three stars:
1st star: Joe Colborne
2nd star: Milan Lucic
3rd star: Riley Sheahan
Farm: Providence 2 - Springfield 1
TOR 4 - MTL 0
Shots: 22-21 MTL
PP: MTL - 0/2; TOR - 1/3
13:21 0-1 TOR Zach Hamill [7] (Thomas Hickey, François Beauchemin)
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25:08 0-2 TOR Stanislav Galiev [8] (Alexander Semin)
35:54 0-3 TOR Alexander Semin [17] (Taylor Hall, Stanislav Galiev)PP
38:27 0-4 TOR François Beauchemin [1] (David Clarkson, Stanislav Galiev)
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no scoring
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Three stars:
1st star: Marc-André Fleury
2nd star: Stanislav Galiev
3rd star: Alexander Semin
Farm: Toronto 5 - Hamilton 3
PIT 3 - FLA 1
Shots: 33-13 PIT
PP: FLA - 0/4; PIT - 1/5
14:19 0-1 PIT Jonathon Blum [4] (Cody Hodgson, Chris Higgins)PP
17:34 0-2 PIT Brenden Morrow [7] (Patrick O'Sullivan, Paul Ranger)
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29:57 0-3 PIT Patrick O'Sullivan [3] (Jarome Iginla, Paul Ranger)
33:08 1-3 FLA Trevor Daley [2] (Paul Kariya, Connor Brickley)
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no scoring
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Three stars:
1st star: Patrick O'Sullivan
2nd star: Brenden Morrow
3rd star: Paul Ranger
Farm: SAR 2 - WBS 1
BUF 4 - NJ 1
Shots: 29-20 BUF
PP: NJ - 0/1; BUF - 1/4
19:41 0-1 BUF Ryan Hollweg [4] (Mike Weber, Brock Beukeboom)
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23:48 0-2 BUF Thomas Vanek [15] (Drew Stafford, Zack Kassian)PP
34:13 0-3 BUF Derek Roy [9] (Thomas Vanek, Philippe Gogulla)
37:45 1-3 NJ Blake Wheeler [6] (Mattias Tedenby, Nino Niederreiter)
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49:46 1-4 BUF Zack Kassian [12] (Nathan Beaulieu, Brock Beukeboom)
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Three stars:
1st star: Zack Kassian
2nd star: Thomas Vanek
3rd star: Jhonas Enroth
Farm: Albany 5 - Rochester 0
WSH 4 - NYI 1
Shots: 29-14 WSH
PP: NYI - 1/2; WSH - 2/7
08:39 0-1 WSH Wojtek Wolski [9] (Jean-Pierre Dumont)PP
17:25 0-2 WSH Jean-Pierre Dumont [9] (David Booth, Cam Barker)PP
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29:48 1-2 NYI Alex Goligoski [2] (Bruno Gervais, Ryan Strome)PP
31:49 1-3 WSH David Booth [10] (Wojtek Wolski)
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44:19 1-4 WSH Zach Parisé [9] (Vladimir Tarasenko, Andrei Markov)
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Three stars:
1st star: David Booth
2nd star: Wojtek Wolski
3rd star: Jean-Pierre Dumont
Farm: Bridgeport 7 - Hershey 6
NAS 7 - PHI 2
Shots: 26-19 NAS
PP: NAS - 1/5; PHI - 0/2
01:35 1-0 NAS Drew Miller [3] (Ryan Ellis, Shea Weber)
10:47 1-1 PHI Mark Scheifele [7] (Adam Larsson)
13:13 1-2 PHI Jeff Carter [9] (Daniel Brière, Chris Pronger)
14:42 2-2 NAS Sebastien Collberg [10])
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30:12 3-2 NAS Evgeny Kuznetsov [13] (Colin Wilson, Ryan Suter)
39:44 4-2 NAS Colin Wilson [10] (Evgeny Kuznetsov, Simon Gagné)
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45:27 5-2 NAS Colin Wilson [11] (Shea Weber, Ryan Suter)
49:49 6-2 NAS Simon Gagné [16] (Evgeny Kuznetsov, Colin Wilson)PP
57:24 7-2 NAS Drew Miller [4] (Ryan Suter, Steven Shipley)
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Three stars:
1st star: Colin Wilson
2nd star: Drew Miller
3rd star: Evgeny Kuznetsov
Farm: Milwaukee 3 - Adirondack 1
PHX 3 - CHI 1
Shots: 22-15 PHX
PP: PHX - 1/6; CHI - 0/2
19:21 1-0 PHO Mark Alt [3] (Kyle Quincey, Jordan Staal)PP
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34:48 2-0 PHO Tomas Kaberle [3] (Brett Connolly, Oliver Ekman-Larsson)
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47:41 3-0 PHO Shane Doan [11] (Brett Connolly, Oliver Ekman-Larsson)
49:16 3-1 CHI Brian Ward [2] (Wayne Simmonds, Niklas Hjalmarsson)
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Three stars:
1st star: Shane Doan
2nd star: Brett Connolly
3rd star: Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Farm: Portland 2 - Rockford 1
MIN 3 - COL 1
Shots: 25-18 MIN
PP: COL - 1/1; MIN - 0/5
09:41 0-1 MIN Louis Leblanc [3] (Michael Del Zotto, Nicklas Grossman)
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25:47 1-1 COL Kevin Klein [3] (Ryan Whitney, Gabriel Landeskog)PP
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44:54 1-2 MIN Nail Yakupov [9] (Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Peter Mueller)
48:07 1-3 MIN Ethan Werek [4] (Kirill Kabanov, Nail Yakupov)
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Three stars:
1st star: Nail Yakupov
2nd star: Louis Leblanc
3rd star: Peter Mueller
Farm: LEM 7 - Iowa 1
LA 5 - CGY 4 (OT)
Shots: 31-27 LA
PP: LA - 2/6; CGY - 1/2
04:28 0-1 CGY Dion Phaneuf [4])
12:26 1-1 LA Dustin Brown [9] (Kyle Beach, Mirko Hoefflin)PP
13:48 2-1 LA Andrew Ladd [14] (Kyle Beach, Jack Johnson)PP
14:18 2-2 CGY Quinton Howden [4])
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37:06 2-3 CGY Nikita Filatov [8] (Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson, Alexander Burmistrov)PP
38:07 3-3 LA Paul Stastny [17] (Steve Mason)
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47:47 3-4 CGY Georges Laraque [3] (Quinton Howden, Paul Dejersey)
56:08 4-4 LA Andrew Ladd [15] (Paul Stastny, Sidney Crosby)
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64:08 5-4 LA Dustin Brown [10] (Vitaly Anikeyenko)
Three stars:
1st star: Dustin Brown
2nd star: Andrew Ladd
3rd star: Paul Stastny
Farm: Abbotsford 6 - Manchester 2
SJ 5 - ANA 2
Shots: 26-16 SJ
PP: SJ - 0/1; ANA - 0/2
19:49 1-0 SJ Andrew Cogliano [10] (Erik Cole, Derek Forbort)
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29:14 2-0 SJ Tobias Tornkvist [3] (Erik Cole, Andrew Cogliano)
32:54 2-1 ANA Teuvo Teravainen [2] (Jakub Voracek, Trent Hunter)
39:29 2-2 ANA Braydon Coburn [2] (Nikolai Zherdev, Bobby Ryan)
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41:13 3-2 SJ Andrew Cogliano [11] (Erik Cole, Ryane Clowe)
41:59 4-2 SJ Erik Cole [6] (Andrew Cogliano, Derek Forbort)
55:51 5-2 SJ Joe Thornton [12])
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Three stars:
1st star: Andrew Cogliano
2nd star: Erik Cole
3rd star: Derek Forbort
Farm: Woostah 2 - Nawfik 1
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Re: November 30, 2013
Nice to see the 3rd line carry a game like that, and Vasilevski bounce back in a back-to-back situation... back. Erik Cole with a 4-game goal streak is impressive, considering he only had 2 goals before that. Now he's offsetting Ryane Clowe's impressive 20-game goalless streak. Good thing I didn't panic and trade any of those guys who scored. Even Derek Forbort's rounding back into #1 defenseman form.
Of course I didn't make up any ground in the division but that's the Pacific deathtrap for you.
Of course I didn't make up any ground in the division but that's the Pacific deathtrap for you.
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Re: November 30, 2013
First of hopefully many for Brendan Gaunce. Should have played Binnington. Wasn't going to win that b2b.
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Re: November 30, 2013
This is why I don't change my lines after a loss.
Re: November 30, 2013
Luongo with a good game! He didn't have to work too hard, but who gives a shit, an 8 rating is an 8 rating!
Re: November 30, 2013
You guys mind cutting the jokes? Its becoming quite obvious you just test sim until i lose.
Re: November 30, 2013
You would think with all the "depth" the Habs have, they wouldnt be able to lose. Oh how the mighty are falling.Montreal Canadiens wrote:You guys mind cutting the jokes? Its becoming quite obvious you just test sim until i lose.
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Re: November 30, 2013
insert image macro:Montreal Canadiens wrote:You guys mind cutting the jokes? Its becoming quite obvious you just test sim until i lose.
trades away all good defensemen
surprised at team sucking
Oh, and Kreps - Holland - Nokelainen, that sounds like a goddamn brunch menu not a third line.
Re: November 30, 2013
I haven't traded away any good defensemen. This is pretty darn close to the same team that took PIT to the ECF (and was the only team to defeat PIT in the playoffs).
Plus, hard to blame the defense when the team is usually #1 or #2 in GF and right now they are sitting 2nd last in the East in GF.
It's not my normal third line, was just throwing shit at the wall, but still, even with that 3rd line, team is miles better than Toronto.
Worry about yourself.
You're an idiot STL. Time and time again that has to be drilled into your head. Sorry, no matter how many times you bring it up, Spooner is NOT a top line player and yes pot boosts exist.
Plus, hard to blame the defense when the team is usually #1 or #2 in GF and right now they are sitting 2nd last in the East in GF.
It's not my normal third line, was just throwing shit at the wall, but still, even with that 3rd line, team is miles better than Toronto.
Worry about yourself.
You're an idiot STL. Time and time again that has to be drilled into your head. Sorry, no matter how many times you bring it up, Spooner is NOT a top line player and yes pot boosts exist.
Re: November 30, 2013
One thing I'm noticing is that the top teams aren't getting any better because of cap restrictions, but the bottom teams are improving quickly as their blue chip prospects are beginning to become solid contributors. It doesn't matter if your team is just as good as last year's if all of the weak-sister opponents you used to beat on aren't as weak as they used to be.
But yeah Brad, your defense is awesome, and I can't imagine why you wouldn't be leading the league in goalscoring when you roll two NZT and two D&C lines.
But yeah Brad, your defense is awesome, and I can't imagine why you wouldn't be leading the league in goalscoring when you roll two NZT and two D&C lines.
Re: November 30, 2013
It's not my normal third line, was just throwing shit at the wall, but still, even with that 3rd line, team is miles better than Toronto.Parker wrote:One thing I'm noticing is that the top teams aren't getting any better because of cap restrictions, but the bottom teams are improving quickly as their blue chip prospects are beginning to become solid contributors. It doesn't matter if your team is just as good as last year's if all of the weak-sister opponents you used to beat on aren't as weak as they used to be.
But yeah Brad, your defense is awesome, and I can't imagine why you wouldn't be leading the league in goalscoring when you roll two NZT and two D&C lines.
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Re: November 30, 2013
miles = -2 points
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Re: November 30, 2013
Which, on one hand, is good. On another hand, the GMs of competitive teams seem to be dealing with some detachment because they're not much they can do other than shuffle the cards and wind up with the same hand.Parker wrote:One thing I'm noticing is that the top teams aren't getting any better because of cap restrictions, but the bottom teams are improving quickly as their blue chip prospects are beginning to become solid contributors. It doesn't matter if your team is just as good as last year's if all of the weak-sister opponents you used to beat on aren't as weak as they used to be.
We've brought the bottom up and increased parity. That helps the overall strength of the league, especially in keeping GMs on mediocre-to-bad teams around.
But I'll be the first to admit that it's not as fun as it used to be. I've over-restricted the game so much that there's very little freedom. It's part of the reason why I haven't evaluated trades as closely because it's about the only freedom that GMs have left, so I leave them to their own devices.
I'll have to open things back up in the offseason. Whether that's relaxing line restrictions and buyout penalties or increasing the salary cap, I'll have to do something to keep things fresh.
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Re: November 30, 2013
I would tend to disagree with the bottom teams improving quickly, if you look at the playoff picture, for the most part it's the same teams that are in right now that have been in the playoffs for the past 2-3 seasons. Couple of small differences, I think DET+CHI is out in the West right now (I would be surprised if ended that way), and of course the Habs are as good as a Junior-A team right now.
Re: November 30, 2013
Well, Savard (27 GP 30 Pts ) Pavelski (27 GP 22 Pts) Hemsky ( 27 GP 25 Pts)Montreal Canadiens wrote:I haven't traded away any good defensemen. This is pretty darn close to the same team that took PIT to the ECF (and was the only team to defeat PIT in the playoffs).
Plus, hard to blame the defense when the team is usually #1 or #2 in GF and right now they are sitting 2nd last in the East in GF.
It's not my normal third line, was just throwing shit at the wall, but still, even with that 3rd line, team is miles better than Toronto.
Worry about yourself.
You're an idiot STL. Time and time again that has to be drilled into your head. Sorry, no matter how many times you bring it up, Spooner is NOT a top line player and yes pot boosts exist.
And then Spooner ( 25 GP 24 Pts).....So my "not a top line player" is pretty much just as good if not BETTER then 2/3rds of your top line. Damn good thing you have alot of depth. Pretty bad when one of my Dmen have they same amount of Pts as one of your 1st liners, almost 2 of em. Also with a better FA % and SH %.......hmmm maybe you should look at stats before flapping your gums there Gumby.
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Re: November 30, 2013
Yeah, Patrik Nemeth sucked.Montreal Canadiens wrote:I haven't traded away any good defensemen.
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Re: November 30, 2013
I'm glad all you can wrap your head around is stats. It's a good thing EHM doesn't follow your logic.
Plus, on a weak team, someone has to score.
You think if I flopped Spooner with Hemsky, Savard, or Pavelski he would put up anywhere close to the points they do?
Can someone else help this guy see the light.....my patience is running thing.....
Colby Cohen is almost identical to Nemeth there skip. 57/83 and 78 CON, 86 PLY, compared to Nemeth is 60/88 with 84 CON.
Speaking of which, pretty ridiculous how Nemeth only gets $2.85M. I guess he was only projected to make $4-5M as a Hab.
Plus, on a weak team, someone has to score.
You think if I flopped Spooner with Hemsky, Savard, or Pavelski he would put up anywhere close to the points they do?
Can someone else help this guy see the light.....my patience is running thing.....
Colby Cohen is almost identical to Nemeth there skip. 57/83 and 78 CON, 86 PLY, compared to Nemeth is 60/88 with 84 CON.
Speaking of which, pretty ridiculous how Nemeth only gets $2.85M. I guess he was only projected to make $4-5M as a Hab.
Re: November 30, 2013
Well first off, player without good stats, dont go anywhere in any sport there Gumby. 2nd off, i see the light and there isnt much "depth" to it. At least not thru the red, white and blue glasses......Montreal Canadiens wrote:I'm glad all you can wrap your head around is stats. It's a good thing EHM doesn't follow your logic.
Plus, on a weak team, someone has to score.
You think if I flopped Spooner with Hemsky, Savard, or Pavelski he would put up anywhere close to the points they do?
Can someone else help this guy see the light.....my patience is running thing.....
Colby Cohen is almost identical to Nemeth there skip. 57/83 and 78 CON, 86 PLY, compared to Nemeth is 60/88 with 84 CON.
Speaking of which, pretty ridiculous how Nemeth only gets $2.85M. I guess he was only projected to make $4-5M as a Hab.
Re: November 30, 2013
So if I played a guy who had attributes of 45/45 on my top line with Savard & Hemsky and he had more points than Savard or Hemsky at the end of the year, would you consider him a better player than them?
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Re: November 30, 2013
Hahaha you got played by Justin so hard. Good fucking job trading your best defenseman without putting him on the block or calculating his salary first.Montreal Canadiens wrote:Speaking of which, pretty ridiculous how Nemeth only gets $2.85M. I guess he was only projected to make $4-5M as a Hab.
You know how much Nemeth would be earning on the Habs? If your guess is not 'exactly the same amount' then you need to start working on your crippling paranoia.
Re: November 30, 2013
I was told multiple times by the commitee that he would be making close to $5M.
But still, Justin paid a very large large sum to get Nemeth. Without moving Nemeth I wouldn't have Pavelski, or Holland.
But still, Justin paid a very large large sum to get Nemeth. Without moving Nemeth I wouldn't have Pavelski, or Holland.
Re: November 30, 2013
Spooners attributes are a lot better then 45/45.....sometimes I think you really like playing the idiot around here.....there is most times that I don't think you are actually "playing".Montreal Canadiens wrote:So if I played a guy who had attributes of 45/45 on my top line with Savard & Hemsky and he had more points than Savard or Hemsky at the end of the year, would you consider him a better player than them?
Re: November 30, 2013
You're considering Spooner better because he has close to the point totals of 3 players you mentioned, yet his attributes are far, far off of theirs, so the comparison was legit.Singin the BLUES wrote:Spooners attributes are a lot better then 45/45.....sometimes I think you really like playing the idiot around here.....there is most times that I don't think you are actually "playing".Montreal Canadiens wrote:So if I played a guy who had attributes of 45/45 on my top line with Savard & Hemsky and he had more points than Savard or Hemsky at the end of the year, would you consider him a better player than them?