2011 Draft Class, Playoffs, Etc.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:32 pm

Worst time of the year for me with EHEC. Time to start the 2011 Draft Class.

First order of business is that I took the liberty of doing what was discussed in this post and added weight to most of the 2010 Draft Class. If it actually helps anything, I have no idea. I would think that it might either speed up develop in the strength category or maybe help with hitting. Either way, we'll have to see if we notice any changes from previous files. I honestly don't know, but I said I would do it, so I did it. I added 5 pounds to guys 6' and under, 10 to 6'1" and 6'2" and then 15 to guys 6'3"+. I didn't change some guys, like the ones that were 5'11" 200 already.

As I did last year, I'll be going off the 2011 CSB rankings. Obviously, I'm quite limited because I cannot actually scout these players. I'm going to try to not be as stereotypical as I was last year (Russians high greed, low HI, high stickhandling; Swedes and Finns good two-way players), but let's be honest, until those stereotypes are broken, they're still pretty accurate. Last year, because I procrastinated so long, I used the end-of-season rankings. This year will be mid-season. At least until nhl.com updates to the end-of-season if I'm not already done.

I cannot give you a timetable on how this will go. I have time to work on it today because Jennifer's still not back from her sister's wedding and I'm bored enough to do it. Plus, it's easier to work on it on my sim days. The sooner I start it, the more I can work on it for an hour or two here or there instead of several hours at a time like I had to do last year.

We will be doing a draft lottery again at the completion of the playoffs. Nick still has the program, thankfully, so we will use the same thing again. It's very limited because it only goes off the standings and does not take trades in to account. Nothing is easy with 11 year old software.

I'll keep you guys updated with the draft class as I go along. I was planning on doing it all separate and then unleashing the whole beast at once, but that was going to be far more copying and pasting than I wanted. So, I'll do it like I did last year. Little by little, mostly by CSB rankings.

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I forgot to include this in the Rulebook, but it will be here so you are forewarned. Shootout wins will NOT count for playoff slot tiebreakers. Just like the NHL. I had a situation last year where Montreal held the tiebreaker over Boston and EHM put Boston in the 7 and Montreal in the 8, or something like that. I went in to league.ehm (I think) and changed one of MTL's losses to an OTL to offset the game. I'll do that again if need be.

As for the playoffs, I still intend to do the AHL Playoffs. I'll need to research it more before the end of the season. It's quite the pain in the ass, so I expect teams with AHL playoff teams to send lines and take it seriously. I'll be very pissed off if I put my time and effort in to it and nobody gives a shit. Just to be clear, nobody wants a pissed off Commissioner.

I will use the real life conferences to determine playoff seeding. Again, like I said, it's a pain in the ass. So take it seriously.

I know it's a difficult time for teams who aren't in the playoffs. Hopefully most of you will have an AHL team to keep an eye on. Again, something I forgot to add to the Rulebook, and because I didn't do AHL Clear Day rosters since I figured most people wouldn't care, I am not going to allow teams to load up their AHL club. This is completely unfair to teams who have both their parent club and affiliate in the playoffs. Teams will only be allowed 2 players who played 35 or more NHL games this season. These players must be 74 OA or under, otherwise, they'll be mostly unstoppable. Waiver rules still apply if any of these guys are eligible.

For the teams in the AHL playoffs, we will apply all leadership changes to the main EHEC file. This includes the 2 players who have played the majority of their season with the NHL team.

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I'm glad to see that everyone is checking in regularly, but I would like to see some more chatter on the boards. I know it's hard for the teams who are out of it, but, just drop in and make a comment once in a while. This is especially for the new guys. Now's the time to make a good impression on the Committee. We're really tired of filling the same teams over and over again. We want some stability with those teams and we're hoping that you are the guys that will provide that for us. Obviously, this is one of the downfalls to our sim schedule. But, it gives you plenty of time to familiarize yourself with the enhanced financial policies in the Rulebook, to start scouting potential free agency and then the draft class as I get it in the game.

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In terms of financial policy updates, I need to continue tracking contract extensions. I plan on making MS Word charts for every team because Excel pissed me off too much. I will probably get together with my arbitrators and we will work on doing arbitration hearings for teams not in the playoffs as the playoffs go. That will be a way to keep those teams active. If any of the arbitrators are in the playoffs, I will make sure to try and schedule hearings on their off days from playing. But, with the multi-day time frame of the process, it should not be an issue. That way, the teams on the outside looking in can really plan their budgets, especially with the new draft pick slotting system and a busier free agency period with the increased contract extension salaries.

This will be the official thread for Draft Class updates and anything else. So, this should be one active thread for the next few months.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:08 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:As I did last year, I'll be going off the 2011 CSB rankings. Obviously, I'm quite limited because I cannot actually scout these players. I'm going to try to not be as stereotypical as I was last year (Russians high greed, low HI, high stickhandling; Swedes and Finns good two-way players), but let's be honest, until those stereotypes are broken, they're still pretty accurate. Last year, because I procrastinated so long, I used the end-of-season rankings. This year will be mid-season. At least until nhl.com updates to the end-of-season if I'm not already done.

racist

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:17 pm

Bro you should get paid for all this!

Catch me on MSN if you need more info regarding the 2011 draftees.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:20 am

Nugent-Hopkins = playmaking BEAST

Post by **SharksGM** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:11 pm

Bartschi's a swell stickhandler from what I saw at the skills competition. No idea if that's true of his game in juniors... man, who has time to watch junior hockey?

I'm not getting him anyways but I look forward to having 30 draftees in the file so I know I'm guaranteed to get at least one of them

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:04 am

I started going though the NHL teams websites and i've been editing the pictures - basically they are just a little too big for the game so bringing them down to scale. I'm not doing a full review of the Face file but I will be adding any major players that do not have faces and updating some others. I will make this file available to anyone that wants it. It is simply a copy paste not a replacement file of faces, so... If anyone has any particular requests of a player let me know. I will also attempt to put the 2011 draftee pictures in as well.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:56 pm

So I'm pissed. I just realized that I could have seen the US NTDP U-18 team in Youngstown during the USHL regular season. Youngstown's about an hour and a half away from me. They're back in town April 1, but that's the Indians home opener. No chance I'd make it there.

The Tier-II U-18 USA Championships are here that same weekend. No big names. Team Cleveland is an all-star team from around the area here of local high schoolers. Some collegiate players, maybe a future NHLer here or there, but tier-II for a reason.

So pissed I didn't even think about the NTDP team playing in Youngstown. At least next year I'll be able to scout some of the US CSB guys.

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:10 pm

Adam is there a way some of us could scout some of these guys for you during the season next year? Being in Edmonton we've got the WHL and our Oil Kings are in tough with a series against Nugent-Hopkins and the Rebels starting with back to backs tomorrow and Saturday.

GM Office Q · Post by **GM Office Q** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:30 pm

Just to throw an idea out there (which may make the later rounds more interesting/useful) - what if we had some sort of system where, as long as you haven't signed your prospect and he has only played in your junior system since you've drafted him, you can apply for prospects to be 're-evaluated' for a possible boost in potential, consistency and/or ceilings? Maybe have a system of a maximum of one player per team per season (decided on by a committee) or something like that. It would also help the continuity of the league - in the future, it would be beneficial to have as many of the 'late bloomers' be good players in EHEC if they are in real life (as we are going with a real-time schedule anyway).

What do you guys think? Too complicated? Useless?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:09 pm

Re-evaluated based on what, exactly? EHM is pretty messed up in regards to junior/farm stats. Re-evaluated based on real-life? That would take years to determine. I honestly don't know how it could be done. At random?

I wish I could come up with a creative solution, but I don't really see what I can do outside of loading the back end with POT boosters right near 75 CON and having some of them actually hit.

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:51 am

Best just to stick with pot boosters and guys with pretty sad beginning ratings.

I do regret that when doing the draft class, reality departs quite quickly, but that's just how Eastside shakes out. I remember the TBL's Patrice Cormier was an 88/80... going at the rate we're going, we'll at least never run out of real prospect names.

Post by **SharksGM** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:39 pm

I thought about rerating unsigned prospects based on Real Life (TM), but that's just a huge can of worms. You might as well just do it randomly - it's not like any of us have even seen half of these guys play once, never mind taken the time to amateurishly scout them.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:30 pm

A handful of draftees were just added to the file and it was re-uploaded in advance of tonight's sim.

There's 30 of them in the file.

Gabriel Landeskog
Sean Couturier
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Jonathan Huberdeau
Tyler Biggs
Sven Baertschi
Dougie Hamilton
Brandon Saad
Nathan Beaulieu
Ryan Murphy
Adam Larsson
Joel Armia
Mika Zibanejad
Jonas Brodin
Dmitri Jaskin
Max Friberg
Miikka Salomaki
Ty Rattie
Zack Phillips
JT Miller
Duncan Siemens
Scott Mayfield
Joe Morrow
Vladislav Namestnikov
Boone Jenner
Ryan Strome
Nicklas Jensen
Oscar Klefbom
Victor Rask
Joachim Nermark

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:23 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Vladislav Namestnikov

Post by **SharksGM** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:52 pm

Are the draftees going to keep their 41-60ish PE ratings? As far as I know, those basically never change.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:32 am

SharksGM wrote:Are the draftees going to keep their 41-60ish PE ratings? As far as I know, those basically never change.

They don't develop based on ceiling?

What a pain in the ass. I hate EHM. Somebody get us a better program.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:33 am

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Are the draftees going to keep their 41-60ish PE ratings? As far as I know, those basically never change.
They don't develop based on ceiling?

What a pain in the ass. I hate EHM. Somebody get us a better program.

They don't change. Once a goon, always a goon.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:28 am

Bub(NYR) wrote:
Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Are the draftees going to keep their 41-60ish PE ratings? As far as I know, those basically never change.
They don't develop based on ceiling?

What a pain in the ass. I hate EHM. Somebody get us a better program.
They don't change. Once a goon, always a goon.

Awesome. $100,000 to the first one of you who creates a more up-to-date simulation engine.

I'll go back through and fix them all. Glad to know throwing wrinkles in with PE ceilings was worth my while.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:33 am

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Awesome. $100,000 to the first one of you who creates a more up-to-date simulation engine.

Do we get attribute bonuses?

jamesredwings · Post by **jamesredwings** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:28 pm

How many years does it take for my nuber 1 guy to play? Yes I will win (or is it lose) the lottery.

Am I going te be 82 years old by the time Detroit is competitive?

Start the playoffs already!

GoJetsGo · Post by **GoJetsGo** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:34 pm

jamesredwings wrote:How many years does it take for my nuber 1 guy to play? Yes I will win (or is it lose) the lottery.

Am I going te be 82 years old by the time Detroit is competitive?

Start the playoffs already!

Gormley, (#4) Forbort, (#15) and Campbell (#30) from last year's draft have already cracked my lineup after less than a season. Granted, it's the Thrashers so there's certainly a reason for it. You could always trade down and collect additional assets...

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:28 pm

Depending on who you take, probably after a year in the AHL. Then they will be decent enough to crack you're lineup.

I've had good luck in the past with draft lotteries.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:31 pm

TorontoGM wrote:Depending on who you take, probably after a year in the AHL. Then they will be decent enough to crack you're lineup.

I've had good luck in the past with draft lotteries.

With the way Taylor Hall has panned out, you're the least qualified for this discussion.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:30 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
TorontoGM wrote:Depending on who you take, probably after a year in the AHL. Then they will be decent enough to crack you're lineup.

I've had good luck in the past with draft lotteries.
With the way Taylor Hall has panned out, you're the least qualified for this discussion.

I was gonna add that even if they do crack line up, don't expect much. hahaha But I didn't want to scare him.

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:17 am

not sure if anyone has the know how - but.... http://eli.thegreenplace.net/programs-and-code/esms/ - what it is is a soccer management sim. I used to be in a league or two as well before finding EHM. I'm wondering if it would be possible to rewrite the C++ code - it would make the game very basic... but it would make sending lines in easier as we only just need to send in a .txt file.

Femur · Post by **Femur** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:08 am

CapsGM wrote:
Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:As I did last year, I'll be going off the 2011 CSB rankings. Obviously, I'm quite limited because I cannot actually scout these players. I'm going to try to not be as stereotypical as I was last year (Russians high greed, low HI, high stickhandling; Swedes and Finns good two-way players), but let's be honest, until those stereotypes are broken, they're still pretty accurate. Last year, because I procrastinated so long, I used the end-of-season rankings. This year will be mid-season. At least until nhl.com updates to the end-of-season if I'm not already done.
racist

NOW you tell us you are letting cultural bias into this?!? wtf? had you been up-front with this policy before, i never would have started Dmitri Pazold (a German national) so soon after the big David Haselhoff concert a few weeks ago (yes, this is the best i could come up with...i know, Haselhoff, very current).

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:20 pm

As you can see, I was busy today with something that took me all day to complete. The master list is up for Exhibit 5 bonuses. Some of them will change slightly since there are anywhere from 2-4 games left per team, but, for the most part, that is them. Please double check your team to make sure that I did not include a player who was signed via FA or someone who was signed before EHEC began. You'll see that I dated some of them back to when the player signed the contract and the Rulebook states players who signed at 25 or under after EHEC began.

Keep in mind that these (for the most part) do not affect players up for contract now because most guys up for contract now are finishing with ELCs that they were already signed to prior to the start of our league.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:15 pm

Alright, the main EHEC savefile is uploaded, dated April 11, and I have manually changed the playoff schedule to mirror the NHL. More work for me as I have to change the dates/matchups each time EHM generates an "if necessary" game. Fucking program. http://www.ehechockey.com/EHEC.zip

Now, the AHL file is complete. I'm surprised that it only took me about 2.5 hours.

Here's what you will have to do in order to get it working. First, copy your ENTIRE Program Files\Eastside Hockey Manager folder to make another copy of it. Paste it in your Program Files folder. It will default title itself as Copy of Eastside Hockey Manager, that's fine. Attached in the AHL.zip folder is the new config_teams.ehm that you need to get the file working properly (overwrite the one in the Copy of EHM folder) and without run-time errors. Also, in this Copy of EHM folder, double click on pictures and then paste the arenas folder that is included in the AHL.zip. Hit yes when it asks if you want to overwrite. Unzip the AHL.zip folder and put it in the Copy of EHM\saves folder as AHL.

If you open your main EHM folder's EHM program, everything will be the same as it currently is for the EHEC file. If you open the Copy of EHM folder's EHM program, it will use the new config_teams.ehm. This will keep both files separate so there aren't run-time errors with the main EHEC file.

So, in steps....
1. Copy your EHM folder.
2. Paste it in the Program Files folder. It should be automatically titled Copy of Eastside Hockey Manager or Eastside Hockey Manager (2)
3. Download http://www.ehechockey.com/AHL.zip
4. Unzip the contents.
5. Paste the config_teams.ehm from the AHL folder in to the Copy of Eastside Hockey Manager folder.
6. Paste the arenas and logos folders in to the Copy of Eastside Hockey Manager's pictures folder. Click yes to overwrite.
7. Copy and paste the AHL savefile folder in to the Copy of Eastside Hockey Manager's saves folder.
8. Open the eastside.exe program from the Copy of Eastside Hockey Manager folder. The AHL file will only work with this one. If you want it close-by, right click, send to desktop (create shortcut) and title it AHL, so you know that this is the EHM for the AHL file only.
9. Hope it works and if it doesn't, PM me/catch me on MSN/whatever.
10. When you want to open the EHEC file, you will have to use the eastside.exe from your original Eastside Hockey Manager folder.

Again, guys, I spent a good amount of time/effort on this AHL file. Don't piss me off by ignoring it.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:55 pm

Working through a couple bugs with the AHL file. I'll get it fixed shortly.

For those of you in the playoffs, I had to align the AHL standings with the NHL standings to make this work.

So:

Hartford = TB
WBS = NYR
Hershey = BOS
Worcester = WSH
Manchester = PIT
Norfolk = CAR
Adirondack and Portland are the same

San Antonio = SJ
Lake Erie = CBJ
Hamilton = CGY
OKC = PHX
Chicago = STL
Abbotsford = LA
Houston = CHI
Milwaukee = DAL

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:07 pm

tl;dr

Just kidding, I got it to work.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:11 pm

The AHL file has been fixed. See two posts up for download instructions.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:12 pm

CapsGM wrote:tl;dr

Just kidding, I got it to work.

No you didn't. There's an overflow error, it wouldn't let you advance to the next day.

It's done now. It works like a charm.

CapsGM · Post by **CapsGM** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:15 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
CapsGM wrote:tl;dr

Just kidding, I got it to work.
No you didn't. There's an overflow error, it wouldn't let you advance to the next day.

It's done now. It works like a charm.

hershey don't care about the next day

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:08 pm

I'll check in a few hours. I've seen AHL playoffs done b4.

BTW - i don't believe the Oilers will get 1st overall tomorrow. I think Florida is more likely to get it - they are desperate for a star there... luckily my Oilers can't fall more than 1 spot, otherwise I think they would have it Florida, Colorado then Edmonton for picks... - I think it's rigged.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:55 pm

Just did the Exhibit 5 bonuses for non-playoff teams. Playoff teams are still required to abide by the salary cap, so I didn't want to create any confusion.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:54 pm

I'll be spending all my EHEC time on getting read for Buffalo next few days, but am def looking forward to AHL playoffs. Too bad I'm taking a couple of key players from Norfolk for TB's run.

Post by **SharksGM** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:35 am

Are their going to clear day rosters or something? Identical schedule to the AHL? I haven't checked when their playoffs start.

Is anything carrying over from the AHL file to the NHL in case we need to call 'em up? (Injuries, LE boosts, etc).

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:40 am

SharksGM wrote:Are their going to clear day rosters or something? Identical schedule to the AHL? I haven't checked when their playoffs start.

Is anything carrying over from the AHL file to the NHL in case we need to call 'em up? (Injuries, LE boosts, etc).

LE, yes. Callups will mirror EHEC file. If you call a guy up in EHEC, he is off your AHL playoff team.

Post that you are calling up a guy and I will edit it in players.ehm. Easiest way to do it.

No Clear Day. I figured nobody would do it. The rule has been posted of only two guys with 35+ NHL games and nobody above 74 OA.

Playoffs will start Tuesday. I'm not editing that schedule. AHL playoffs start all over the place. Lake Erie starts on Saturday at noon. Other series start Wednesday.

Post by **SharksGM** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:40 am

Oh and FYI, the final CSB rankings are out. Presumably other scouting services will follow shortly.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:41 am

SharksGM wrote:Oh and FYI, the final CSB rankings are out. Presumably other scouting services will follow shortly.

Saw that. Will get to the draft class when I get to it.

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:27 pm

Still workin on pictures for players - but will post them soon for any that want them.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:40 pm

Quick note: For the AHL playoffs, if a team has had a guy down in the AHL all season, regardless of what OA he is, he can play in the playoffs.

Edit: This is regarding Toivonen. All his games have been at the AHL level.

GoJetsGo · Post by **GoJetsGo** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:42 pm

Oilers_GM wrote:Still workin on pictures for players - but will post them soon for any that want them.

2011 draftees?

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:24 pm

trying for most of them - some of the Europeans don't have a 'player' pic yet.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:31 pm

Nugent-Hopkins to the Oil will be an overload of skills. I hope they take a D like Larsson instead!

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:47 pm

Penguin wrote:Nugent-Hopkins to the Oil will be an overload of skills. I hope they take a D like Larsson instead!

Drafting the best player available is never a bad choice tho. Larsson is garbage.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:29 am

Oilers_GM wrote:trying for most of them - some of the Europeans don't have a 'player' pic yet.

I made a set for the 2010 draft -- found most of the Euros at eliteprospects.com, even many non-Swedes. If there are others you just can't find, let me know and I'll see what I can find.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:52 pm

Penguin wrote:Nugent-Hopkins to the Oil will be an overload of skills. I hope they take a D like Larsson instead!

I was thinking about that as well, they have soooo many skilled forwards up front, they need to start building their defense. At the same time it's not to not take a forward 1st OA.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:42 am

I'm just setting this up now, and for the life of me I can't find the config_teams file in the AHL zip file. Did I misunderstand the instructions?

EDIT: For that matter, I can't find the arenas or team pictures, either.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:11 am

Parker wrote:I'm just setting this up now, and for the life of me I can't find the config_teams file in the AHL zip file. Did I misunderstand the instructions?

EDIT: For that matter, I can't find the arenas or team pictures, either.

I don't think Nick zipped them in the file last night. I'll re-upload it with the proper files now.

Here you go, buddy. http://www.ehechockey.com/AHL.zip