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Defender Mark Alt will develop to 71/86/79 when he gets his POT boost. Of course, if he doesn't get the boost he'll turn out around 62/75/71 and will look like a pretty lousy pick at 20th overall. With an 86 CON though, I'm very optimistic.
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D Bogdan Kiselevich with a jump should develop to 83/81/81 CH/PO/HI. Even without the jump he's still a serviceable 3rd pair or extra guy with a 70 or 71 DF. His con is 78, so it's much more iffy that he will jump, but fingers crossed...
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Bub(NYR) wrote:D Bogdan Kiselevich with a jump should develop to 83/81/81 CH/PO/HI. Even without the jump he's still a serviceable 3rd pair or extra guy with a 70 or 71 DF. His con is 78, so it's much more iffy that he will jump, but fingers crossed...
Kiselevich's hitting ceiling lowers to 90 as he is 6'0 tall. Gotta remember that one, Bub!

Hitting ceiling
6'2 and taller: ceiling is fine
6'0 - 6'1: ceiling drops to 90
5'10 - 5'11: ceiling drops to 80
5'9 and smaller: ceiling drops to 70
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I just hope there aren't too many guys that POT boost. I don't know how many I put in there overall, but I wanted to try to replicate the risk-reward of the real draft. If everyone's a reward, I'll be pretty disappointed in how it turned out.
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Tampa Bay GM wrote:Who has pot boosters and has simmed ahead to see how often they get them? So far 2/3 get them for me (Larsson/Hakaanpa) a decent amount of the time, i forgot that goalies can't get them. I thought I would of ranked Larsson as the better of the two, but Jani Hakanpaa could turn into a absolute monster. I really got give props to Burke on a sick draft class. There was a good balance of high pot/low con and low pot/high con players which allows for the randomness factor in boosts/drops to take affect in-game without touching the gamefile.

so post ur biggest pot booster brag w/ stats if you want, mine would b:

D Jani Hakanpaa 2/3 through 2013/14 season: 67 SHT/74 PM/70 SH/78 CHK/84 POS/79 HIT

all still growing green except shooting =)
I almost took him at #58! Surprised he fell at #73.
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Dominik Bittner is my only draftee that has any shot at boosting (67POT/78CON). If he does, he could be an okay third pairing guy (64OF/71DF) with his pretty decent offense making up for his 55CH; but if he doesn't boost, he's be AHL fodder (56OF/62DF).
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Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:I just hope there aren't too many guys that POT boost. I don't know how many I put in there overall, but I wanted to try to replicate the risk-reward of the real draft. If everyone's a reward, I'll be pretty disappointed in how it turned out.
Don't feel bad at all. FIrst off there appeared to be around the same number of high POT/low CON drafees's so some GM's will get a ugly little surprise when there a few POT drops to balance out the boosts. It doesn't matter if you sign them to a contract or not iirc, however the chances of them happening with 60-69 CON players is a lot lower then 60> guys. This was just a good year to have either a top 5 pick, or lots of picks in the late 2nd to 3rd round. Some guys went with safe picks, which is probably the best choice if you only had 1 pick per round but others with more could take the chance on a few boosters. The ones you created probably have a higher CON on average then EHM would of created so that will increase the frequency of the boosts probably but I had some gamefiles where I went 0/3 with Larsson/Hakanpaa/Nordstrom.
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I didn't get any boosters but I got 2 decent steals in the 4th with Gogolev at #93 and Lof at #114. Overall pretty happy with the draft and have to give the staff props on all their hard work.
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DevilsGM wrote:I didn't get any boosters but I got 2 decent steals in the 4th with Gogolev at #93 and Lof at #114. Overall pretty happy with the draft and have to give the staff props on all their hard work.
If I just got the best d-men in the game in 3 years I'd be pretty happy to lol
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Well yea true enough, easy to say I'm happy with the draft when i had 2 or the top 3 picks. Not to mention turned some 1st's into another awesome player in Kovalchuk, so yea I guess it was an ok draft. :lol:
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Now comes the answer to the question on everybody's mind since this draft started - who will go last overall?
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The file is updated with the draft class inputted. Please check your team and see if I got everything right.

I will update you guys with a sim schedule here shortly. Plan on at least a day or two to get everything in order before simming.


I also have a couple rule changes to announce over the coming days.
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Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:The file is updated with the draft class inputted. Please check your team and see if I got everything right.
All good on my end. Thanks for the effort, I had an enjoyable draft even without a first round pick.
Tampa Bay GM wrote:Don't feel bad at all. FIrst off there appeared to be around the same number of high POT/low CON drafees's so some GM's will get a ugly little surprise when there a few POT drops to balance out the boosts. It doesn't matter if you sign them to a contract or not iirc, however the chances of them happening with 60-69 CON players is a lot lower then 60> guys. This was just a good year to have either a top 5 pick, or lots of picks in the late 2nd to 3rd round. Some guys went with safe picks, which is probably the best choice if you only had 1 pick per round but others with more could take the chance on a few boosters. The ones you created probably have a higher CON on average then EHM would of created so that will increase the frequency of the boosts probably but I had some gamefiles where I went 0/3 with Larsson/Hakanpaa/Nordstrom.
I haven't seen a single bust in any sim ahead except with Toffoli before his weight was changed. Meanwhile the chance of pot boosting seems to be nearly 50%. I'm pretty sure every GM noticed this as the few high-pot low-con guys got picked much later than they should have been based on talent alone. So if there is a lesson here it's that pot boosters should be rarer or have lower ceilings or both, assumig we don't want dozens of them boosting every draft.

For that matter I don't really understand the discussion a page back about fiddling with sim dates/contract consideration times to make sure every single pot booster gets a chance at boosting this year. How does it make sense for a prospect to suddenly get better 4 whole days after being drafted? Especially when people are describing them as 'projects' - those type of players don't turn out literally a week after being drafted.
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