Re-Alignment

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:02 pm

Give me a day to digest this and we'll see how to proceed.

Post by **SharksGM** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:54 am

Sorry, I looked it up and thought it was a joke. What the fuck is this batty realignment scheme? I don't think I've seen a fan suggestion this stupid since one that had alphabetically sorted divisions.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:22 am

I'm excited! But, is it possible to make EHM with the new conferences?

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:30 am

I think the NHL is completely retarded if they go along with this.

Might as well do it EHM style, and start new. Throw out all player and team stats, burn all the banners that teams currently have, and get a new trophy.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:38 am

Penguin wrote:But, is it possible to make EHM with the new conferences?

No. As far as I know, the conferences are written in the programming code of the game.

I'll research it tomorrow afternoon.

jamesredwings · Post by **jamesredwings** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:22 pm

We are back to the 4 division days where Montreal played Boston every year.

I guess they do not remember why they did this conference thing!

Femur · Post by **Femur** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:03 pm

jamesredwings wrote:We are back to the 4 division days where Montreal played Boston every year.

I guess they do not remember why they did this conference thing!

sad thing is probably that is EXACTLY what they are thinking.

the only reason we in Cleveland have to sit through 19 games a year with the less-than-dynamic Kansas City Royals is because the Yanks v. BoSox get the best ratings.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:32 pm

I've looked at every config file for EHM that is in the folder and I don't see any sort of way to switch conferences. I was hoping there was an East/West switch in teams.ehm or something, but there doesn't appear to be.

I was trying to type up a post of what the playoff picture would look like with the new format and I was totally lost.

My best solution so far has been this. In the offseason, I swap Minnesota with Winnipeg. Minnesota has been vacant more or less since the start of EHEC. They're a hard sell for anyone looking for a team whereas Winnipeg looks like a playoff contender for the foreseeable future.

This puts Winnipeg into the West and a doormat into the East. I tried to mess with config_teams.ehm to put a "dummy" team in place and just not schedule them any games and fill the team with useless FAs, but the code is written to allow no more than 30 teams.

The reason Winnipeg has to move West is because they wouldn't be able to be a playoff team for the West unless I had them there. So they must switch with an East team.

When playoff time comes, I will simply have to change regulation losses to OTL/SOL until I get enough points to produce the right playoff pairings.

If we ever got a competent, active Minnesota GM and they had success and were a playoff team, I would just make a new file in which Minnesota was in the West and switched with a non-playoff team.

If anyone has any other ideas, feel free to let me know.

Edit: Also just read this:

Aportzline Aaron Portzline
Outside chance #CBJ could still move to Eastern Conference if Phoenix franchise stays put or moves to city in Mountain or Pacific time zone.

So, we'll play wait and see until next offseason. I just wanted to give a heads up while we're all discussing the changes.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:51 pm

I know this probably isn't an option in your eyes, but I say we just keep it the way it is.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:35 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:I know this probably isn't an option

Correct.

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:38 pm

yuck. oh, yuck.

why must they do this to us, us who have no intention of modifying the code of a 10 year old game.

Parker · Post by **Parker** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:49 pm

Fucking Christ, how I hate that smug little weasel Gary Bettman.

It's effectively impossible to do the sort of the realignment in EHM the way they're going to do in the NHL. Their concept of realignment is fucking retarded anyway and I like the league alignment a lot better the way it is.

Post by **SharksGM** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:59 pm

Swap Nashville and Winnipeg, that's what the NHL should be doing.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:08 pm

SharksGM wrote:Swap Nashville and Winnipeg, that's what the NHL should be doing.

Well, should be Columbus and Winnipeg. Nashville's more viable than Columbus staying in the West. Under the old structure anyway.

Columbus is hemorrhaging money.

Post by **SharksGM** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:44 pm

That's Columbus' fault for making possibly the worst cap team since the lockout. Well, maybe the Flames have been comparably bad, but that's about all. Nashville makes (made) the most sense geographically. I guess it's all a moot point now unless the board has a change of heart.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:45 pm

SharksGM wrote:That's Columbus' fault for making possibly the worst cap team since the lockout.

Bad arena deal.

They also have four ownership hands in the jar trying to run things four different ways.

Plus, since old man McConnell died, his kid's only holding onto the team because of the guilt he'd have for selling his dad's prized possession.

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:28 am

Could super design genius Quinn not code a PHP script to import schedule data and export it to a human-generated standings file that displayed the data in the horrible new alignment structure? Then the end of the year we would have a NHL playoff file like the AHL playoffs. Quite time consuming having to notepad edit staff (and a bunch of other stuff I can't imagine) to ensure proper simulation, not sure about development of players either. Not sure how you would handle that.

Would it be possible to auto-sim to end of playoffs in original gamefile and then manual edit playoff results and development?

+1 for keeping it the way it is

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:48 am

Wouldn't need a separate file I don't think. I'll have to put some scenarios together.

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:52 pm

I can't imagine the work that is gonna be needed to figure out the realignment for us. I suggest we stick with just swapping a western team with Winnipeg, IE Nashville, Columbus or Detroit. That way we'll all still be able to use the engine for fast sims ect. Sucks they did it this way and I knew when I came out ( and wasn't on here much) that this would put us in a heck of a situation.

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:48 pm

Good news for us!! NHLPA voted no to the re-alignment! Let's all rejoice.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:13 pm

It's going to be a bloody CBA fight this summer between the NHLPA, the league, and the owners. This is the first real shot across the bow.

Oilers_GM · Post by **Oilers_GM** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:40 pm

so let's say there is some sort of lock out or strike at the start of next season. We keep moving forward with the season regardless of what the NHL does right?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:23 pm

Oilers_GM wrote:so let's say there is some sort of lock out or strike at the start of next season. We keep moving forward with the season regardless of what the NHL does right?

Absolutely. We'd probably just re-use this year's schedule.

SabresGM · Post by **SabresGM** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:24 am

For those of you curious how play-offs would have played out under realignment: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck- ... more-28270

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:38 pm

Time for this issue to resurrect itself.

An imbalanced conference is going to be a little bit of a pain in the ass. Everything should be doable, but may take some maneuvering during the playoffs.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:35 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Time for this issue to resurrect itself.

An imbalanced conference is going to be a little bit of a pain in the ass. Everything should be doable, but may take some maneuvering during the playoffs.

Then why bother? We don't have fans to satisfy, travel budgets to figure out. If realignment in EHM means having unbalanced conferences and more shit work (with the possibility of it not working) then why do it?

Jets GM · Post by **Jets GM** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:44 pm

Because I want WPG the fuck out of my division, we got every team at .500 or above.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:51 pm

Bub(NYR) wrote:
Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Time for this issue to resurrect itself.

An imbalanced conference is going to be a little bit of a pain in the ass. Everything should be doable, but may take some maneuvering during the playoffs.
Then why bother? We don't have fans to satisfy, travel budgets to figure out. If realignment in EHM means having unbalanced conferences and more shit work (with the possibility of it not working) then why do it?

Grasping at the last straws of realism?

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:16 pm

I'm all for it. It would make our league even better! Willing to help out.

Commish Bub(NYR) · Post by **Commish Bub(NYR)** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:16 pm

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:
Bub(NYR) wrote:
Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Time for this issue to resurrect itself.

An imbalanced conference is going to be a little bit of a pain in the ass. Everything should be doable, but may take some maneuvering during the playoffs.
Then why bother? We don't have fans to satisfy, travel budgets to figure out. If realignment in EHM means having unbalanced conferences and more shit work (with the possibility of it not working) then why do it?
Grasping at the last straws of realism?

+1

Jungle Cats · Post by **Jungle Cats** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:28 pm

Hey, if the Chief wants to do it, I'm not gonna make a fuss.

Bruins_GM · Post by **Bruins_GM** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:06 pm

If we don't undertake re-alignment, give me my 3 D-men on the PK back.

GM Office Q · Post by **GM Office Q** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:21 pm

Chicago
Colorado
Dallas
Minnesota
Nashville
St. Louis
Winnipeg

Top 3 teams going to the playoffs? Let's do this!

Post by **SharksGM** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:07 am

Realignment can suck it.

TorontoGM · Post by **TorontoGM** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:21 am

Can I move to the west?

MinnesotaGM · Post by **MinnesotaGM** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:18 pm

I'll swap with ya Leafs

Montreal Canadiens · Post by **Montreal Canadiens** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:37 pm

Looks like the re-alignment got approved by the board of governors.

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:22 pm

Montreal Canadiens wrote:Looks like the re-alignment got approved by the board of governors.

Yippee.

Post by **SharksGM** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:48 pm

SharksGM wrote:Realignment can suck it.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:53 pm

Is there a simple way to hand pick the playoff matchups through the file on EHM? Like we do with AHL teams?

Virtual Jarmo · Post by **Virtual Jarmo** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:40 am

Penguin wrote:Is there a simple way to hand pick the playoff matchups through the file on EHM? Like we do with AHL teams?

Yeah, I can manipulate the standings however I want to in order to create playoff matchups. I just have to remember to do them before the Playoff Tree is generated, otherwise it won't work.