Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide

Old thread was super long, fresh start

Under 27

Wojtek Wolski - whatever he gets - 3 yrs - TO
Zach Budish - whatever he gets - 3 yrs - TO
Dana Tyrell - whatever he gets - 3 yrs - TO

Arbitration
Martin Brodeur

Wolski: 3.75M (25% raise)
Budish: 812,500 (25% raise; no de-valuations, considered minor league player)
Tyrell: 1,057,291 (25% raise; no de-valuations, considered minor league player)

I accept all of those, if it is not to late I'd like to change the length of the contracts. I arbitrarily typed 3 yrs for everyone, but either way it's cool.

If you let me change them:

Budish = max length (4 yrs amirite?) + TO
Tyrell = max length + TO
Wolski = 2 yrs + TO

Just saw that max is 3 + TO, so everything is cool except Wolski, I'd like 2yrs + TO.

Edit: nevermind

Contracts offered.

An award has been determined in the Martin Brodeur arbitration.

Terms: 1 yr
GM proposal: 4.25M; comps: Nabokov, Kiprusoff (GM offered TO with contract, but Brodeur is set to auto-retire at age 41)
Agent proposal: 5.5M; comps: Kiprusoff

One final year in the EHEC sun for, arguably, the best goaltender the world has ever seen. Brodeur will retire next season and it's important to keep in mind that his ice time is rather limited in EHEC because regression is inevitable. The game usually retires goaltenders long before this and it'll be interesting to see how the sim engine reacts to a goaltender north of age 40.

It's interesting that both parties used Kiprusoff as a comp. From a GM standpoint, Kiprusoff isn't the kind of player you want to be attached to because he's been playing at his NHL salary and it's safe to say that there are better goalies in the file making less than that. The going rate for most goaltenders seems to be around the 4.5M range in arbitration.

However, none of those goalies have the leadership capabilities that Brodeur has. If his workload is limited, the GM can easily pick and choose the spots where Brodeur is used. On one hand, that's a luxury. It may be a costly luxury, but it's a luxury nonetheless.

Brodeur has a Cup, Nabokov just won one. It's clear that goaltenders with high CON and high LE are worth their weight in gold. That said, Brodeur is definitely not the same 5.2M player because of his limited workload, however, his play is still top notch.

I award Martin Brodeur an even $5,000,000 for his final season.

Justin, you can accept/reject the award.

Accept

Brodeur contract entered.

Wojtek Wolski has signed a $3,500,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced (to be adjusted to 3.75M)

Dana Tyrell has signed a $1,050,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced. (to be adjusted to 1,057,291)

Zach Budish has signed a $800,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced. (to be adjusted to 812,500)

Offer Ryan Murray a ELC with max number of years.

Murray ELC offered.

Offer Edward Pasquale an ELC, max years.

Pasquale contract offered.

A little bored, and planning for next month. Can I get these new contract figures confirmed as accurate? For the ELC bonuses, I didn't understand "25 takeaways + giveaways per game (min. 42 games played)" so I just gave it to everyone.

Dalton Smith
Base Salary $400,000
Bonus Money $1,000,000
New Salary $2,800,000

Tyler Seguin
Base Salary $2,200,000
Bonus Money 0
New Salary $6,600,000

Patrick Nemeth
Base Salary $525,000
Bonus Money $1,000,000
New Salary $3,050,000

Cam Fowler
Base Salary $450,000
Bonus Money $1,750,000
New Salary $6,600,000

If your there and want to check out Repik, Gratton and Chucko as well, that be great. Not needed if you don't want to bother.

Tyler Seguin
After 12-13 E5 (if any): $2,200,000
(OF + DF) / 2 = 88; 200% increase (3x)
New base: $6,600,000
Bonuses: 200,000 x 2 = 400k (FA, SK 85+) + 250k (CON) + 350k (Specialist) = 1M total

New salary: $7,600,000

Dalton Smith
After 12-13 E5: $400,000 + 1,000,000 (4 E5s) = $1,400,000
(OF + DF) / 2 = 74; 100% increase (2x)
New base: $2,800,000
Bonuses: Fighting (90) 200k CON 250k Specialist 350k -200k (SH, PL) = 600,000 total

New salary: $3,400,000

Patrik Nemeth
After 12-13 E5: $525,000 + 750,000 (3 E5s) = $1,275,000
(OF + DF) / 2 = 75.5; 100% increase
New base: $2,550,000
Bonuses: CON (84) 250k Specialist 350k -300k (SH, PL, STH) = 300,000 total

New salary: $2,850,000

Cam Fowler
After 12-13 E5: $450,000 + $1,500,000 (6 E5s) = $1,950,000
(OF + DF) / 2 = 85; 300% increase (4x)
New base: $7,800,000
Bonuses: SK 85+ 200k, CON (92) 250k, = 450,000 total

New salary: $8,250,000

Accept all, max length with team options.

Request numbers for:

Chris Gratton

Chris Gratton
Current salary: $450,000
Under 70; 25% raise = 450k * 1.25 = 562,500 (base)
Devaluations: N/A, played half of season in Syracuse.

New salary: $562,500

Kris Chucko
Current salary: $850,000
Under 70; 25% raise = 850k * 1.25 = 1,062,500 (base)
Devaluations: SH, PL -200k

New salary: $862,500 or you could just accept his option and decide next season if you want him long term (arbitration).

Max length, two way, with team options for chucko and gratton

Reasoner --> arbitration

Rudy Cantu (staff) - default contract

Not sure if Chucko will take that deal. He wants 1.6M in game. But contracts offered.

An award has been determined in the Marty Reasoner arbitration.

Length: 1 + TO
GM proposal: 800k, one-way contract; comps: Eaves, Goc, Bonk
Agent proposal: 1.2M ; comps: McClement, Betts

The GM in this case gave a very strong argument, discrediting all of Reasoner's perceived strengths. With 80 FA, he still lost 56% of his draws. The league-wide LE boost does take away some of the value of Reasoner's 78 LE, but on a very young team, despite his small role, I think it's still important. Justin argued that LE has less value for guys playing in a minor role. I've never seen evidence of that, and I'm not calling him a liar, but it's worth mentioning that only 19-year-old Ryan Murray has more LE on the Lightning roster than Reasoner does. They're a very young team and Reasoner will be the lone elder statesman.

Reasoner may start to see a drop in his attributes throughout this season and certainly through next season. He's easy to cut the cord with financially, but he does have value and will continue to have value for a Lightning team that is paying a bulk of its cap to the top four or five players on the team. Because he's being offered a one-way contract and possibly some security for next season, a slight decrease in salary seems fair, especially given the mentoring role he knows he will be taking on.

I award Reasoner one year at 950k per with a team option.

Justin, you can accept/reject this award.

Surprised I missed the contracts above, but they're all offered.

What are you doing about your collection of expiring AHLers?

Olvecky, Hutchings, Rowat, Salcido, Bernier, Aulie, Dixon all one year offers, if they formula allows them to play in the AHL. TO and 2-way. Thanks for the reminder.

Respectfully decline the Reasoner ruling.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Olvecky, Hutchings, Rowat, Salcido, Bernier, Aulie, Dixon all one year offers, if they formula allows them to play in the AHL. TO and 2-way. Thanks for the reminder.

Respectfully decline the Reasoner ruling.

25% increase to a handful of them with 60+ average. If not, offer in game.

Rowat wanted 2 years, so I left off the TO.

Doesn't look like Haka got an offer, still red.

Hakanpaa entered. Will need adjustment from 4M to 3.85M once accepted.

Dalton Smith has signed a $3,500,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Cam Fowler has signed a $8,000,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Patrik Nemeth has signed a $2,750,000 per year, 3 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Linden Rowat has signed a $525,000 per year, 2 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Marc-André Bernier has signed a $600,000 per year, 1 year deal with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Detailed terms of the deal were not announced.

Cam Fowler, Patrick Nemeth, Dalton Smith (and most likely Tyler Segiun when he signs) need to have either an additional year added to their contract, or a TO.

I asked for max length with a TO, which is 3 years with a TO or 4 years without to my knowledge. Currently the contracts are listed at 4 years, but this is before the rollover when a year is taken off the current deal. After the rollover, they will have 3 years remaining with no team options. This would mean the new contract they just signed was for only three seasons, with no team options. I'm fine with either an additional year being added or a TO, whatever is easier.

Thanks.

ps. Hopefully Hakanpaa's deal was also for max length with team option?

I assume so. I don't know. It's pending.

Please offer all 2013 Tampa Bay draftee's ELC's, max length and TO (if it's allowed).

Furthermore, for all ELC for 2013 draftee's please include a TW as well.

Please offer ELC contracts to all Tampa Bay prospects with a TW.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Please offer all 2013 Tampa Bay draftee's ELC's, max length and TO (if it's allowed).

No options on ELCs.

Hutchings rejected offer.

All ELCs offered.

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Hutchings rejected offer.

Increase money, keep TW? As long as he can play in the AHL, I'm cool.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:

Commissioner (CBJ) wrote:Hutchings rejected offer.

Increase money, keep TW? As long as he can play in the AHL, I'm cool.

Offered him 700k.

Chucko and Salcido rejected.

Friendly reminder that Dalton Smith, Cam Fowler and Patrick Nemeth need to have either a TO or 1 year added to their newly signed contract. Tyler Seguin and Jani Hakanpaa are fine.

Tampa Bay GM wrote:Friendly reminder that Dalton Smith, Cam Fowler and Patrick Nemeth need to have either a TO or 1 year added to their newly signed contract. Tyler Seguin and Jani Hakanpaa are fine.

TOs added.