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Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:59 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
Tommy, our ATL GM and one of your soon-to-be Committee members, has astutely pointed out to me that the existing lottery program we have has the wrong percentages. We now have three options. We use that one even though it's wrong, we base our lottery on what happens with the real life lottery in 3 hours, or we figure out some way to produce a random number generator to simulate the lottery as accurately as we can.
I'm sure this won't get read much before the real lottery, so people will have skewed opinions, but hopefully it gets some feedback.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:42 pm
by Jungle Cats
how far off are the percentages?
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:04 pm
by Parker
There are numerous websites with random number generators, so that is an option. The chat client used by the league might even have something like that built into it.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:07 pm
by GoJetsGo
Attached a quick spreadsheet photo of the differences.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:28 pm
by GM Office Q
I'll take the extra 1.4%.

Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:34 pm
by Oilers_GM
I'd be ok using the lotto sim that is on the NHL website. There is one on the Oilers Website...
http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=68769 and just had NJ get picked moving them to the #2 pick. just hit refresh - I'd say - best of 5 - take a screen shot each time and the most outcomes get's picked to move up.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:46 pm
by TorontoGM
Roll dice? Or how about go with the NHL's results?
I know there are NBA lottery sims too out there but I think the percentages are different.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:56 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
I like the idea of going with the NHL's results. But, we have 5 minutes to decide that.
I can't figure out a random number generator, though, admittedly, I haven't tried too hard.
AHL playoffs start tonight for those involved.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:00 pm
by GM Office Q
http://www.random.org/
Min = 1, Max = 1000.
Detroit gets 1-250 (250 total)
Minnesota gets 251-439 (188 total)
Etc.
Just a suggestion.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:08 pm
by jamesredwings
The suspense is killing. I feel a heart attack coming!
By the way, I have my lucky underwear on.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:12 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
NHL results or random number generator?
First 5 votes.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:14 pm
by jamesredwings
Confused? You mean real NHL results?
No way
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:14 pm
by TorontoGM
NHL results is less work for you, so I vote for that.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:16 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
jamesredwings wrote:Confused? You mean real NHL results?
No way
Meaning, if EDM wins, you keep the pick. If Colorado wins, Colorado has the first EHEC pick. If Florida wins, Minnesota has first EHEC pick.
Just going off what seed wins the real-life one.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:17 pm
by jamesredwings
then NHL is fine
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:17 pm
by GoJetsGo
NHL results applied to correct EHEC analog.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:17 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
NHL results = majority out 5 votes.
So, the NHL results will determine our draft order.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:18 pm
by GM Office Q
I'd go with NHL results. However, I'm actually third in EHEC (and second in the NHL), so if FLA wins in the NHL then I'd win in EHEC, correct?
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:19 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
AvsGM wrote:I'd go with NHL results. However, I'm actually third in EHEC (and second in the NHL), so if FLA wins in the NHL then I'd win in EHEC, correct?
Yeah, you're right. The standings page wasn't updated on the EHEC page.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:23 pm
by TorontoGM
This makes the Lottery on TSN even more exciting!

Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:25 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
Atlanta has won the draft lottery.
Detroit maintains the #1 pick.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:25 pm
by TorontoGM
Whos fucken TERRIBLE idea was that?
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:27 pm
by jamesredwings
The party is on in Detroit!
I have no comment on who is the no 1 pick
There you go I have practised hard on being a boring interview GM.
I can take off my lucky underwear! whew
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:28 pm
by Virtual Jarmo
DET, MIN, COL, ATL, TOR, NYI, FLA, OTT, NJ, DET, EDM, EDM, NSH, EDM is your first round of the non-playoff teams.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:37 pm
by NashvilleGM
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:49 am
by Jungle Cats
weak. guess I can't look to the draft to solve my problems.
Re: Lottery Dilemma
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:37 am
by Commish Bub(NYR)
jamesredwings wrote:The party is on in Detroit!
I have no comment on who is the no 1 pick
There you go I have practised hard on being a boring interview GM.
I can take off my lucky underwear! whew
+1
Now send me Datsyuk and I'll make it a +2.
