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Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:22 pm**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:MTL = 58221000 (54496000 + 3725000 penalties) on 20th & 23rd. Did you send up/call down a 600k player between those dates?
Damir Galin.

SharksGM wrote:PHI = 62588708 (56618708 + 5970000 penalties) on 20th & 21st. Where's the 1M difference?
Johnny Oduya?

Yeah, those were it. Everything's settled now, and cap numbers are updated.

Everyone's fine except Nashville. Please send down Chucko. In fact, if Chucko isn't already sent down by the next sim, could whoever's doing it do it, since he was brought up by Pat in the first place?

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:43 pm**

SharksGM wrote:Everyone's fine except Nashville. Please send down Chucko. In fact, if Chucko isn't already sent down by the next sim, could whoever's doing it do it, since he was brought up by Pat in the first place?

Chucko was sent down for yesterday's sim.

Posted: **Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:50 am**

Updated again. We're all good.

I missed out on the file for the 26th. What were your numbers for that day, Vik?

Posted: **Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:02 pm**

SharksGM wrote:Updated again. We're all good.

I missed out on the file for the 26th. What were your numbers for that day, Vik?

Doesn't look like anyone made any changes.

Anaheim = 67,732,833
Calgary = 65,850,000
Chicago = 67,205,000
Islanders = 62,893,438
Arizona = 64,624,584
Toronto = 66,982,335

Posted: **Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:25 pm**

CGY: Robyn Regehr (1 month, $1M - CGY @ 65.5M when placed on LTIR)

What's the 1M?

Posted: **Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:08 pm**

Calgary.Flames wrote:
CGY: Robyn Regehr (1 month, $1M - CGY @ 65.5M when placed on LTIR)
What's the 1M?

Regehr's $3.5M salary minus the $2.5M in cap space you already had when he was injured. You only get enough LTIR to replace the injured player's cap hit.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:57 am**

Updated. Florida is over. Get under.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:58 pm**

SharksGM wrote:Updated. Florida is over. Get under.

Missing Brock Nelson on LTIR.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:23 am**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Updated. Florida is over. Get under.
Missing Brock Nelson on LTIR.

Brock Nelson is dead to me.

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:00 pm**

Updated, painfully, through today. Dallas is $1,153 over the cap by my count. Everyone else is fine.

Stupid phpBB doesn't support strikethrough unless you add it yourself. Laaaame.

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:03 pm**

SharksGM wrote:Updated, painfully, through today. Dallas is $1,153 over the cap by my count. Everyone else is fine.

Odd, I have their to date at 66,964,519 which leaves their projected at 67,992,616.

My numbers for each of their games:
67,077,677
66,902,677
66,852,677
65,752,677
68,502,677
66,402,677 (*10)
68,302,677 (*4)

I also have slightly different to dates for the following teams:
Winnipeg
Montreal
Philadelphia
Arizona
Pittsburgh
St. Louis
Washington

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:35 am**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Updated, painfully, through today. Dallas is $1,153 over the cap by my count. Everyone else is fine.
Odd, I have their to date at 66,964,519 which leaves their projected at 67,992,616.

My numbers for each of their games:
67,077,677

I have 67,777,677 for the first game. Possibly one of Harding or Streit was the difference.

I'll update again in a few days.

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:17 pm**

SharksGM wrote:
Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Updated, painfully, through today. Dallas is $1,153 over the cap by my count. Everyone else is fine.
Odd, I have their to date at 66,964,519 which leaves their projected at 67,992,616.

My numbers for each of their games:
67,077,677
I have 67,777,677 for the first game. Possibly one of Harding or Streit was the difference.

I'll update again in a few days.

They didn't have Harding at the time I downloaded the file. He's with them on the 9th though so maybe it's just a timing issue of when we each got the file.

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:53 pm**

Does my "today" figure include Spooner? Without him (LTIR) I have my current payroll at $63,340,000

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:12 pm**

gritsenko (Jets) wrote:Does my "today" figure include Spooner? Without him (LTIR) I have my current payroll at $63,340,000

It does. If you're not over the cap, you don't get anything for LTIR relief.

Posted: **Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:26 pm**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
gritsenko (Jets) wrote:Does my "today" figure include Spooner? Without him (LTIR) I have my current payroll at $63,340,000
It does. If you're not over the cap, you don't get anything for LTIR relief.

* not over by at least the injured players salary. You get exactly enough LTIR to fitna replacement making the same salary as the injured player.

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:17 pm**

Updated again. I missed a savefile for the 27th so a few numbers maybe slightly off. Sorry. STL needs to get under for Friday.

phpBB really needs strikethrough and EHM needs to stop putting so many guys on LTIR.

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:49 pm**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
gritsenko (Jets) wrote:Does my "today" figure include Spooner? Without him (LTIR) I have my current payroll at $63,340,000
It does. If you're not over the cap, you don't get anything for LTIR relief.

OK thanks. I'm trading him as soon as he's healthy.

Posted: **Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:34 am**

Updated. Props to Arizona for having over $16M in LTIR at some point, plus a suspension or two.

Also the cap directory in the save file is updated, so if you want to double-check numbers and/or gleeful point out mistakes, go right ahead. The files should be fairly self-explanatory.

Posted: **Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:23 am**

Updated, along with the files in EHEC.zip. VAN is over.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:06 am**

SharksGM wrote:LTIR:

ARZ: Kevin Bieksa (4 months, $0.96M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR), Steven Stamkos (2 months, $5.7M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR), Brett Connolly (2 weeks, $6.0375M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR), Tomas Kaberle (2 weeks, $4.10625M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR)

I'm not sure I understand how I could have been over the cap.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:22 am**

AP21 (ARZ) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:LTIR:

ARZ: Kevin Bieksa (4 months, $0.96M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR), Steven Stamkos (2 months, $5.7M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR), Brett Connolly (2 weeks, $6.0375M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR), Tomas Kaberle (2 weeks, $4.10625M - ARZ over cap when placed on LTIR)
I'm not sure I understand how I could have been over the cap.

Over cap means you were over $68M and therefore got his full salary as additional LTIR.

The whole point of LTIR is that it lets you go over the cap temporarily. It doesn't reduce your cap hit.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:07 am**

All right, got it. Thanks, Dan.

Posted: **Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:35 am**

Updated. Merry Christmas.

Posted: **Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:20 am**

Updated again. Ottawa's over.

Note I occasionally update without bumping the thread if nobody's over. See the first line of the first post for the last update date. I'll update more frequently closer to the deadline.

Also, if you want a crap U25 player fastsigned for your farm team, please specify that, otherwise they could be signed on a gameday and added to your pro roster.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:09 am**

Updated. Anyone who plans on taking on salary at the deadline should think about lower their cap hits before then.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:47 am**

SharksGM wrote:Updated. Anyone who plans on taking on salary at the deadline should think about lower their cap hits before then.

Yeah, I can only add about $30M right now.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:57 pm**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Updated. Anyone who plans on taking on salary at the deadline should think about lower their cap hits before then.
Yeah, I can only add about $30M right now.

You should loan out cap space for draft picks.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:03 pm**

Commish Bub(NYR) wrote:
Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Updated. Anyone who plans on taking on salary at the deadline should think about lower their cap hits before then.
Yeah, I can only add about $30M right now.
You should loan out cap space for draft picks.

This isn't a joke right?

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:38 pm**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:Updated. Anyone who plans on taking on salary at the deadline should think about lower their cap hits before then.
Yeah, I can only add about $30M right now.

Have I mentioned the new $60M salary floor? Penalties for being under start at first round draft picks, payable directly to the committee member with the fewest draft picks.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:22 pm**

DId I do this right?

(68M - 65847413* 49/ 82) / (33/ 82)

28652155 / 33/82 = 10323428

76,170,841 is currently my max allowable payroll?

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:30 pm**

Tampa Bay GM wrote:DId I do this right?

(68M - 65847413* 49/ 82) / (33/ 82)

28652155 / 33/82 = 10323428

76,170,841 is currently my max allowable payroll?

Not sure where the 10,323,428 is coming from.

28,652,155 / (33/82) = 71,196,266

Though if you want a more exact figure, you'd have to factor in the 2 games you've played since Dan last updated (they put you at 65,890,852 so, if you plug that in for the 65,847,413, you end up with 71,131,766 as the max allowable).

Posted: **Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:16 pm**

All-star update. I accidentally gave CGY too much LTIR for Huberdeau, so those numbers are slightly adjusted.

For that matter, there is no clear rule on LTIR for traded players. I have no idea how the NHL does it. I didn't even think the NHL allowed trading injured players, although obviously Horton and Pronger got moved. Anyway, I re-calculated the LTIR exemption on the first day Huberdeau went on to CGY's roster, as if he had just been injured, so I'll stick with that for the future.

Posted: **Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:20 pm**

SharksGM wrote:All-star update. I accidentally gave CGY too much LTIR for Huberdeau, so those numbers are slightly adjusted.

For that matter, there is no clear rule on LTIR for traded players. I have no idea how the NHL does it. I didn't even think the NHL allowed trading injured players, although obviously Horton and Pronger got moved. Anyway, I re-calculated the LTIR exemption on the first day Huberdeau went on to CGY's roster, as if he had just been injured, so I'll stick with that for the future.

The acquiring team has to waive the physical that most trades require for the deal to go through. And you can put someone on LTIR at any point (you can even wait awhile and do it retroactively) so long as they qualify. If teams are going to make use of LTIR, you usually see them call up a couple guys to max out their space before putting the player on LTIR and then send the players back down.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:40 am**

Do I have room to recall Esa Lindell (1.5M) for the McFaull suspension? If not, how much room do I have?

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:10 am**

Virtual Jarmo (CBJ) wrote:Do I have room to recall Esa Lindell (1.5M) for the McFaull suspension? If not, how much room do I have?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6267#p52560

That post should let you know.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:35 pm**

Virtual Jarmo (CBJ) wrote:Do I have room to recall Esa Lindell (1.5M) for the McFaull suspension? If not, how much room do I have?

The simplest formula for cap room:

TODATE + x*(82-GP)/82 = 68e6
x = 82*(68e6-TODATE)/(82-GP)
x = (68e6*82 - (67493089*52))/(82-52) = 1385556

So no, you're a little short.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:37 pm**

And yes, ANA and CHI are both over the cap. 2 games for CHI now. Kindly start thine backups, and Pat if you could ensure that their backups start on Thursday, that would be great. Except for me because I'd prefer if ANA beat LAK but whatever.

DET needed to shed a contract and did already, thank you.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:30 pm**

I'm over because i needed to recall Lundberg for 1 game because of the suspension of Burns. He will be send to the minors before my next game, so i don't think my backup had to play my next game.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:43 pm**

SharksGM wrote:
Virtual Jarmo (CBJ) wrote:Do I have room to recall Esa Lindell (1.5M) for the McFaull suspension? If not, how much room do I have?
The simplest formula for cap room:

TODATE + x*(82-GP)/82 = 68e6
x = 82*(68e6-TODATE)/(82-GP)
x = (68e6*82 - (67493089*52))/(82-52) = 1385556

So no, you're a little short.

Except that they have Krejci on LTIR so (by the number in your post) anything from 68M to 70,456,833 will be knocked down to 68M. They're currently at 67,967,500 so add in Lindell's 1.5M and they're only at 69,467,500 and, therefore, 68M.

So you're fine calling him up Adam.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:48 pm**

Tampa Bay GM wrote:
Virtual Jarmo (CBJ) wrote:Do I have room to recall Esa Lindell (1.5M) for the McFaull suspension? If not, how much room do I have?
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6267#p52560

That post should let you know.

Just so everyone knows, the numbers I posted don't factor in LTIR.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:32 pm**

Vik (Habs) wrote:
SharksGM wrote:
Virtual Jarmo (CBJ) wrote:Do I have room to recall Esa Lindell (1.5M) for the McFaull suspension? If not, how much room do I have?
The simplest formula for cap room:

TODATE + x*(82-GP)/82 = 68e6
x = 82*(68e6-TODATE)/(82-GP)
x = (68e6*82 - (67493089*52))/(82-52) = 1385556

So no, you're a little short.
Except that they have Krejci on LTIR so (by the number in your post) anything from 68M to 70,456,833 will be knocked down to 68M. They're currently at 67,967,500 so add in Lindell's 1.5M and they're only at 69,467,500 and, therefore, 68M.

So you're fine calling him up Adam.

Thanks, Vik. Much appreciated.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:36 pm**

Vik (Habs) wrote:Except that they have Krejci on LTIR so (by the number in your post) anything from 68M to 70,456,833 will be knocked down to 68M. They're currently at 67,967,500 so add in Lindell's 1.5M and they're only at 69,467,500 and, therefore, 68M.

So you're fine calling him up Adam.

Touche. Well, if you have LTIR, then add however much LTIR you're not using to the formula. Although if you are already using some but not all of your LTIR, I'm not sure that you can work it out just from the numbers I posted.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:02 pm**

SharksGM wrote:
Vik (Habs) wrote:Except that they have Krejci on LTIR so (by the number in your post) anything from 68M to 70,456,833 will be knocked down to 68M. They're currently at 67,967,500 so add in Lindell's 1.5M and they're only at 69,467,500 and, therefore, 68M.

So you're fine calling him up Adam.
Touche. Well, if you have LTIR, then add however much LTIR you're not using to the formula. Although if you are already using some but not all of your LTIR, I'm not sure that you can work it out just from the numbers I posted.

I called up Mantha when Krejci went down, but that was only a portion of Krejci's LTIR value.

Posted: **Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:35 am**

AnaheimGM wrote:I'm over because i needed to recall Lundberg for 1 game because of the suspension of Burns. He will be send to the minors before my next game, so i don't think my backup had to play my next game.

There's no exemption for suspensions. You're supposed to stay under the cap at all times. Why didn't you send down Compher?

Posted: **Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:23 pm**

SharksGM wrote:
AnaheimGM wrote:I'm over because i needed to recall Lundberg for 1 game because of the suspension of Burns. He will be send to the minors before my next game, so i don't think my backup had to play my next game.
There's no exemption for suspensions. You're supposed to stay under the cap at all times. Why didn't you send down Compher?

Because i didn't know about the Suspension rules. I'll put Dubnyk for tonight's game, then.

Posted: **Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:58 am**

You know the drill... get under if you're over.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:25 am**

EDM's been over for 2 games now. Pat, did you switch his goalies? I think Montoya qualifies as the real backup, even though he's started more games for some bizarre reason.

CHI was over last game and needs to get under for tomorrow.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:27 am**

I was not over last game. My trades got entered after the sims.

Posted: **Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:31 am**

BlackHawk Down (Seb) wrote:I was not over last game. My trades got entered after the sims.

Yeah, well, pfft. So there.

Let me take this opportunity to remind everyone that there is no roster limit or salary cap in the playoffs. So don't complain if someone like Justin stashes a spare all-star team on the farm only to call them all up in May.

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